Trading a keltec p3at for a Bersa thunder

[Redhorse]

I have a kel tec p3at with two extra magizenes, one regular and one extended. I was thinking about looking for a Bersa thunder in .380 to trade for it. Any thoughts?

 

[halfmileharry]

My Plan "B" is the P3AT. It's always in my back pocket in a DeSantis.
I like the Bersa a lot but it's larger and harder to conceal. Flip a coin

 

[medcoxo]

My Plan "B" is the P3AT. It's always in my back pocket in a DeSantis.
I like the Bersa a lot but it's larger and harder to conceal. Flip a coin

I agree.....

 

[Redhorse]

Well, the idea behind it is for it to be a gun any lady friend to shoot who may come into my life.

 

[Shoots4Fun]

Bersa is certainly more of a pleasure as a shooter but like what that others said, not nearly as concealable.

 

[halfmileharry]

Well, the idea behind it is for it to be a gun any lady friend to shoot who may come into my life.

The P3AT isn't a friendly gun to shoot. They're very accurate once you're used to the nubby sight.
The little suckers have some nasty to them when shot.
The Bersa is easier to shoot but not by a lot.
The G42 Glock is the friendliest little .380 to shoot that there is. My experience with all 3 mentioned.
OF the 2 you mentioned for a lady to shoot would be the Bersa without a doubt.

 

[Redhorse]

The P3AT isn't a friendly gun to shoot. They're very accurate once you're used to the nubby sight.
The little suckers have some nasty to them when shot.
The Bersa is easier to shoot but not by a lot.
The G42 Glock is the friendliest little .380 to shoot that there is. My experience with all 3 mentioned.
OF the 2 you mentioned for a lady to shoot would be the Bersa without a doubt.

I agree that a Bersa would be easier to shoot (I can't entertain he idea of a G42 because I don't want to give any money; I'd prefer a straight trade). I'm trying to decide which would be better. I shoot revolvers so it wouldn't matter much to me. This keltec has a laser on it but I doubt any Bersa I came up with would. I also have an iwb holster that'd fit a Bersa. I know I'm probably putting too much thought into this, but it'd probably be easier to have a gun on hand already instead of having to find one.

 

[ModernGunner]

Small, compact gun that's easier to conceal and with a laser vs. small, compact gun that's less concealable and without a laser?

JMO, but for 'any woman that comes into your life', take the time and effort to teach her to use the handgun (any handgun) well, and it won't matter if the P3AT is a bit (and it's a bit) 'harder' to shoot. Both the Kel-Tec and the Bersa are .380's, an easily controllable round. Women are certainly as capable as men at learning to handle any firearm, and often have better hand/eye coordination to boot, generally speaking.

A handgun is only as 'hard' to shoot well as the amount of time and effort any person (male or female) takes to learn to use it.

 

[Redhorse]

Small, compact gun that's easier to conceal and with a laser vs. small, compact gun that's less concealable and without a laser?

JMO, but for 'any woman that comes into your life', take the time and effort to teach her to use the handgun (any handgun) well, and it won't matter if the P3AT is a bit (and it's a bit) 'harder' to shoot. Both the Kel-Tec and the Bersa are .380's, an easily controllable round. Women are certainly as capable as men at learning to handle any firearm, and often have better hand/eye coordination to boot, generally speaking.

A handgun is only as 'hard' to shoot well as the amount of time and effort any person (male or female) takes to learn to use it.

Fair enough I thought I was set until my best friend didn't like her keltec because of the kick. She's pretty tough and shoots a lot but I guess everyone is different.

 

[VERT]

Get rid of the KelTec if you have the opportunity to trade for a Bersa.

 

[Voldemort]

I love the Bersa, wish I never sold mine

 

[dhw9am]

The Bersa might be harder to conceal, but is not hard to conceal.
My experience between the Kel-Tec and the Bersa, is the Bersa is more accurate,
and more reliable.
I personally, would rather carry a more accurate and reliable pistol, and find a way to
conceal it. I use a belly band for my Bersa, and find it a good way to carry.
Over 1200 rounds through my Bersa Thunder 380, and NO issues.

 

[88E30M50]

I've bought 3 and sold 2 Bersa .380s. I love the little guns but when I buy one, I end up trading it for something else only to regret it and run out and buy another. This last one is a keeper though and to be sure I don't trade it away, it's on long term loan to my son. My sister carries a Bersa .380 as her primary handgun.

 

[hps]

Keep ur Keltec, I've had both still have the KT's. I could make assumption on why most have failures with them, but I won't.
KT P3at ZERO MalFs!!
KT 32 ZERO MalFs!!
these have been my sons favorite handguns since he's been 6-7 yrs old (hes now 14) so they have some rds through them!!
Bersa shot great and nvr an issue, Just to big for pocket carry. IMHO

 

[Hoosier8]

I have both a P3AT and a Bersa CC and hardly ever carry the Bersa anymore due to weight.

My +/- with the guns.

P3AT

Small
Light
No slide hold open
Sucks to shoot, chews up my finger from the trigger guard just by being sharp and hard.

Bersa CC

Better ergonomics
A lot nicer to shoot
Heavier
Fairly soft metal slide that will start deforming where the hold open hits. Nothing really bad as it has a lifetime warranty. Best to pull back the slide to release it instead of flipping the release.

 

[MrSmitty]

I have a P32 and love it. I have a good pocket holster, and you don't even notice it's there, but you have 8 rounds of .32 love available (more with other mags) I have a 10 round mag I keep for more ammo. Kel-tecs get almost as bad a rap as Hi-points with gun snobs ( I don't like hi-points based ONLY on looks) but all the KT's I have shoot all ammo, and are reliable.

 

[Redhorse]

I have a P32 and love it. I have a good pocket holster, and you don't even notice it's there, but you have 8 rounds of .32 love available (more with other mags) I have a 10 round mag I keep for more ammo. Kel-tecs get almost as bad a rap as Hi-points with gun snobs ( I don't like hi-points based ONLY on looks) but all the KT's I have shoot all ammo, and are reliable.

I'm a big keltec fan myself, I'm just trying to reach a decision.

 

[TiMMaY]

The Bersa might be harder to conceal, but is not hard to conceal.

I carry a Bersa Thunder 380 Plus, in a pocket holster, in both my jeans and shorts without any issues.

 

[Redtbird]

I carry my .380 Bersa Thunder in an Old Faithful IWB, at about 215. Unless I'm wearing a tighter shirt, the Bersa conceals easily.

 

[sliptap]

For what it is worth, my girlfriend (who is small and has never shot a gun before) actually enjoyed my father's P3AT when we went shooting. It is small for my hands, but actually fit her hands very well (since she has smaller hands). She had no problem with center of mass shots as 7 yards.

She shot some generic 90 gr FMJs and even fired off a hot 102gr +P Golden Saber reload. She didn't seem mind either.

I think the Bersa is a great gun, but it is definitely larger. With practice, I think the Keltec is probably more versatile (for both you and her).