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  • TheBoss930

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    Hey guys! just picked up this beauty! It was made in 1920, and came from Hungary. It is the one of the few successful long recoil actions out there.
    After a bolt return spring change, this gun runs very smoothly! not bad for 97 years old!







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    Bigtanker

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    From Wiki....

    The Frommer M.17 pistol was also used in a dual-mounted tripod that fired both pistols in full automatic. The pistols were inserted upside-down and fed from 25 round box magazines.

    That would be interesting.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Very cool, and not something I'd seen or heard of before! I was going to guess 7.65 or 32 just because they were so popular back then. I probably wouldn't want to carry a 32 but there are a lot of neat old pistols in that caliber.
     

    indy1919a4

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    What a wonderful clean design, How easy is the hammer to cock with thumb???... And Does the hammer push the firing pin forward of the bolt when the hammer is at rest forward???

    That dang thing looks like an adult Benjamin BB Gun

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    TheBoss930

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    What a wonderful clean design, How easy is the hammer to cock with thumb???... And Does the hammer push the firing pin forward of the bolt when the hammer is at rest forward???

    That dang thing looks like an adult Benjamin BB Gun

    2968637_01_vintage_benjamin_franklin_pump_640.jpg

    Hammer is fairly easy to cock with your thumb, and it does push the pin forward when the hammer is down
     

    AmmoManAaron

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    A little late to this thread, but I really like the various Frommer guns. I've been looking for an affordable shooter Frommer Stop for several years...it's kinda hard to pay a lot for a little old .32 ACP, but they sure are built like tanks. Where did you find the new recoil spring? Original replacement or a new made unit?

    FYI regarding long recoil - several old semi-auto shotguns used this operating method, but because of the wide power range in ammo and to be reliable with all, they recoil very harshly with the heavier loads as the reciprocating parts bottom out hard at the end of their stroke. On the other hand, a long recoil gun with matched ammunition can recoil very lightly. The Gepard GM6 Lynx (Hungarian) semi-auto .50 BMG bullpup is known for its light recoil (relatively speaking).

    Skip to 5:12 for slow motion video of the action working.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g138qXmuVnA

    Piles up the brass very neatly in this video...suppressor action late in it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_B1AX9_Wz0

    Just cool shooting videos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev_R-sD7m08
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuC6DSWvn8
     

    ChalupaCabras

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    OP - Please stop posting threads like this.

    When you actually show people how much more interesting and unique many of these C&R war relics are over their generic glocks and poly pistols, they start chomping at the bit for them. Then the prices go up, and the people like you and me, who have appreciated them all along, start having trouble finding pieces for our collections. Remember what happened in 2012 when they couldn't find any more Glocks and ARs to buy? They started buying ANYTHING that was a gun... and lo and behold, many of those were Currios and Relics which the plastofiles found to be excellent firearms by sheer chance and panic.

    Its best for both of us to keep these wonders to ourselves, and let the tacticool crowd keep passing them up without a blink at every gun show.
     

    TheBoss930

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    A little late to this thread, but I really like the various Frommer guns. I've been looking for an affordable shooter Frommer Stop for several years...it's kinda hard to pay a lot for a little old .32 ACP, but they sure are built like tanks. Where did you find the new recoil spring? Original replacement or a new made unit?

    FYI regarding long recoil - several old semi-auto shotguns used this operating method, but because of the wide power range in ammo and to be reliable with all, they recoil very harshly with the heavier loads as the reciprocating parts bottom out hard at the end of their stroke. On the other hand, a long recoil gun with matched ammunition can recoil very lightly. The Gepard GM6 Lynx (Hungarian) semi-auto .50 BMG bullpup is known for its light recoil (relatively speaking).

    Skip to 5:12 for slow motion video of the action working.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g138qXmuVnA

    Piles up the brass very neatly in this video...suppressor action late in it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_B1AX9_Wz0

    Just cool shooting videos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev_R-sD7m08
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuC6DSWvn8

    I found the spring on Nurmrich, but I'm not sure if it was a reproduction. And these can be found fairly cheaply!
     

    TheBoss930

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    OP - Please stop posting threads like this.

    When you actually show people how much more interesting and unique many of these C&R war relics are over their generic glocks and poly pistols, they start chomping at the bit for them. Then the prices go up, and the people like you and me, who have appreciated them all along, start having trouble finding pieces for our collections. Remember what happened in 2012 when they couldn't find any more Glocks and ARs to buy? They started buying ANYTHING that was a gun... and lo and behold, many of those were Currios and Relics which the plastofiles found to be excellent firearms by sheer chance and panic.

    Its best for both of us to keep these wonders to ourselves, and let the tacticool crowd keep passing them up without a blink at every gun show.

    Haha good point :rofl:
     
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