Ruger's New Glock 19 Sized Pistol

[Route 45]

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[roscott]

So many pistols have been so successful without a manual safety. Why does Ruger feel the need to add one? Instant disqualifier for me.

 

[Hornett]

They will probably come out with a "pro" model later without a manual safety like they did with the LC9s then the LC9s Pro.

 

[42769vette]

So many pistols have been so successful without a manual safety. Why does Ruger feel the need to add one? Instant disqualifier for me.

I never understood this line of thinking. I have a S&W shield that has a safety. I flipped it to fire when taking it out of the box, and never thought about it again. It doesn't hurt me that it is there. I EDC a Glock. If it came with a safety I'm capable of flipping it to fire and forgetting about it. Now, if it automatically went to safe when changing mags, or something like that, it would be a deal breaker for me aswell, but as long as I just have to flip it to fire, I dont care if its there or not.

 

[throttletony]

If that sells in the low $300's it could be a big hit. (street price vs MSRP)

 

[T-DOGG]

I never understood this line of thinking. I have a S&W shield that has a safety. I flipped it to fire when taking it out of the box, and never thought about it again. It doesn't hurt me that it is there. I EDC a Glock. If it came with a safety I'm capable of flipping it to fire and forgetting about it. Now, if it automatically went to safe when changing mags, or something like that, it would be a deal breaker for me aswell, but as long as I just have to flip it to fire, I dont care if its there or not.

The concern is inadvertently flipping it to safe and then when drawing not remembering to flip it to fire before pulling the trigger.

 

[gregkl]

I never understood this line of thinking. I have a S&W shield that has a safety. I flipped it to fire when taking it out of the box, and never thought about it again. It doesn't hurt me that it is there. I EDC a Glock. If it came with a safety I'm capable of flipping it to fire and forgetting about it. Now, if it automatically went to safe when changing mags, or something like that, it would be a deal breaker for me aswell, but as long as I just have to flip it to fire, I dont care if its there or not.

I'm with you on this. My Shield safety hasn't moved in a long time. Plus, I shoot a 1911 so I'm used to sweeping that area anyway.

Come to think of it, I basically do the same movement when I touch off a round with my AR.

 

[42769vette]

The concern is inadvertently flipping it to safe and then when drawing not remembering to flip it to fire before pulling the trigger.

Good point. I guess if the safety was overly large and it was possible to accidentally hit it I could see that being an issue. Every one I've seen the safety was so small your not going to hit it on accident, but I have no doubt I have not seen them all.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

From a gun person point of view. I dont care about the safety. From the rest of the world point of view OHMYGAWD GUNS WITHOUT SAFETIES AHHH SO MUCH DANGER.

its a big segment of the market. I am astounded glock hasnt made a 19 with a bang switch. Seems like they are giving up a lot of money by refusing to do it.

Ive owned a shield with and without a safety. Dont care either way.

 

[T-DOGG]

Good point. I guess if the safety was overly large and it was possible to accidentally hit it I could see that being an issue. Every one I've seen the safety was so small your not going to hit it on accident, but I have no doubt I have not seen them all.

I agree the safety on the Shield is small and positive, most likely wouldn't have an issue with that one. When we had a Shield like yours I just carried it in the off position also. Even with the larger safeties I naturally lay my thumb on top of the safety so deactivating it was never a concern for me, but my preference is for no thumb safety.

 

[223 Gunner]

Yuck.

 

[bgcatty]

Not a bad looking pistol. Besides Glock needs competition; the more the merrier.

 

[boensig]

If that sells in the low $300's it could be a big hit. (street price vs MSRP)

IF it is that low then I’ll probably pick one up, because why not

 

[roscott]

I never understood this line of thinking. I have a S&W shield that has a safety. I flipped it to fire when taking it out of the box, and never thought about it again. It doesn't hurt me that it is there. I EDC a Glock. If it came with a safety I'm capable of flipping it to fire and forgetting about it. Now, if it automatically went to safe when changing mags, or something like that, it would be a deal breaker for me aswell, but as long as I just have to flip it to fire, I dont care if its there or not.

I guess I just don't want my self-defense guns to have anything unnecessary. A magazine disconnect isn't a big deal, and I could just ignore it, but I would just rather have a pistol without it. Same with manual safeties, or Hillary keyholes.

That's a fair point about a "pro" version coming later though. I guess if you just make both styles, Ruger covers both sides of the market.

 

[Route 45]

I heard that Plainfield Shooting Supply has these in stock for $289. Not bad if it turns out to have a decent trigger and is reliable.

 

[NHT3]

From a gun person point of view. I dont care about the safety. From the rest of the world point of view OHMYGAWD GUNS WITHOUT SAFETIES AHHH SO MUCH DANGER.

its a big segment of the market. I am astounded glock hasnt made a 19 with a bang switch. Seems like they are giving up a lot of money by refusing to do it.

Ive owned a shield with and without a safety. Dont care either way.

Glock does make a 19 with a bang switch, it's called the trigger
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[IndianaSoloMcfly]

 

[mcapo]

I guess I started out with 1911's so safety disengagement is just a part of the draw/grip and probably the reason I prefer a safety on a semi-auto...

Statistically, the odds of a ND are probably (no, I do not have any supporting evidence) greater than the average civilian having an inadvertent safety engagement cause bodily harm from a perp. I'll play the odds on this one and keep my safeties on a CCW semi auto. OWB duty and comp pistols can be safety free so I suppose it's just your preference and use.

I am just wonder if these 9's get any cheaper, will the hi-point all of a sudden be a mid-price gun?

Rural King has a Remington RP9 at $200 after rebate. What's a hi-point $175?

 

[T-DOGG]

Glock does make a 19 with a bang switch, it's called the trigger
[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member, [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public”

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

 

[Ddillard]

I got a hold of one back in February and it is not a bad gun. The safety lever has to be moved with intent to do so, as it is small. I do however prefer no safety but can go either way with it. Great shooter and smooth. It has been sitting since I first got it, and have been trying to decide whether it is for me. I tend to lean more towards heavier sidearms.