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  • doddg

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    As a relative "newb" I found this to be quite helpful and refer to it daily.
    I suppose everyone else has this memorized: I wish I was as smart as other people. :dunno:
    Just Saturday, I emailed someone with a Glock for sale for $400, and I thought I'd buy it to try it (small 9mm single-stack mag), but then I looked it up to be sure and I had gotten the Glock 42 (.380, which was the one for sale), mixed up with the Glock 43 (small 9mm that I was curious about and wanted to see if could replace my S/W M/P Bodyguard and/or Colt Mustang, which I don't like the Mustang).
    I had to email back quickly to confess my stupidity.
    I was on my phone instead of cmp where it is harder/slower to get connections and I was being lazy b/c I thought I was smart now (with the list). :wallbash:
    Lesson learned.
    It is very cool to see the 1/2" barrel difference in the 17 to the 19, warranting the 19 to be called, "compact."
    Didn't know that.
    I did see a 17L "long-slide" for sale weeks ago with its 6.2" barrel and said, "WOW! (at Marksman Shooting in Westfield).

    I so wish people would put the caliber in instead of just the model of a gun for people like me who don't have it all memorized. :ugh:
    Everyday I have to look up calibers when looking at ads.

    Actually, this must be an old list since anything 40 and up is not listed.
    G17 9mm Full-size, 17rd mags, 4.5” bbl
    G17L 9mm Full-size, Longslide, 17rd mags, 6.2” bbl
    G18 9mm Select-fire (same size as G17) 17 or 33 rd mags, 4.5” bbl
    G19 9mm Compact 15rd mags, 4” bbl
    G20 10mm Full-size, 15rd mags, 4.6” bbl
    G21 .45acp Full-size, 13rd mags, 4.6” bbl
    G22 .40 S&W Full-size, 15rd mags, 4.5”bbl
    G23 .40 S&W Compact, 13rd mags, 4” bbl
    G24 .40 S&W Full-size, Longslide, 15rd mags, 6.2" bbl
    G25 .380acp Compact, 15rd mags, 4” bbl (not sold to the public in the US)
    G26 9mm Subcompact, 10rd mags, 3.5” bbl
    G27 .40 S&W Subcompact, 9rd mags, 3.5” bbl
    G28 .380acp Subcompact, 10rd mags, 3.5” bbl (not sold to the public in the US)
    G29 10mm Subcompact, 10rd mags, 3.8” bbl
    G30 .45acp Subcompact, 9/10rd mags, 3.8” bbl
    G31 .357sig Full-size, 15rd mags, 4.5” bbl
    G32 .357sig Compact, 13rd mags, 4” bbl
    G33 .357sig Subcompact, 9rd mags, 3.5" bbl
    G34 9mm Full-size frame, “Tactical”-length slide, 17rd mags, 5.3” bbl
    G35 .40 S&W Full-size frame, “Tactical”-length slide, 15rd mags, 5.3” bbl
    G36 .45acp “Slimline” (single-stack) Subcompact, 6rd mags, 3.8”bbl
    G37 .45GAP Full-size, 10rd mags, 4.5” bbl
    G38 .45GAP Compact, 8rd mags, 4.0” bbl
    G39 .45GAP Subcompact, 6rd mags, 3.5” bbl


    G17L/24 are "Longslide" models. They have the same frame as the G17/22, and have 6.2" bbls.
    G34/35 are the "Practical/Tactical" models. They have the same frame as the G17/22, have 5.3" bbls, and are the same overall size as a 5" 1911.


    Last, but not least, the “Glock 7,” which is a “porcelain gun that costs more than you make in a month!” jestera


    Models by Caliber:
    9mm:
    17, 17L, 18, 19, 26, 34


    .40 S&W
    22, 23, 24, 27, 35


    45 ACP
    21, 30, 36


    10mm
    20, 29


    357 Sig
    31, 32, 33


    45 GAP
    37, 38, 39


    380 ACP
    25, 28


    Model numbers by frame size:
    Full-size
    17, 17L, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 31, 34, 35, 37


    Compact
    19, 23, 25, 32, 38


    Subcompact
    26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 33, 39, 36 (-Slimline)


    Extra Model Designations:
    An “SF” after the model number indicates “Short-Frame” which is a reduction of the amount of material in the backstrap, for a better grip with smaller hands. (Currently, only G20, 21, 29 & 30 are available as “SF” models)
    Note: the G21SF has been made in several variations, includng with or without an ambidextrous magazine release, and with either a standard "Glock" light rail OR a 1913 Picatinny Rail.


    A “C” after the model number indicates that the gun is "Compensated" (ported) from the factory. Two small ports in the barrel with corresponding vents in the slide are present on either side of the front sight.


    Generation Differences:
    Gen 1: No finger grooves, no accessory rail, pebble-texture grip.
    Gen 2: No finger grooves, no accessory rail, waffle-texure grip
    Gen 2.5: Finger grooves, no accessory rail (only on some G29/G30’s)
    Gen 3: Finger grooves & rail (no rail on 9mm/.40/357/.45GAP subcompacts, rail on .45ACP/10mm subcompacts)
    RTF-2: Indicates a Gen 3 gun that has a very aggressive pyramid texture on the grip for use in weather/extreme situations.
    Gen 4: Finger grooves & rail, interchangeable/mountable backstraps, has a less-aggressive “rough texture” pyramid-style texturing on grip (than the RTF-2 grips)


    General Information:
    Magazine interchangeability:High capacity magazines from larger Glock pistols will work in the smaller Glock pistols of the same caliber (they just hang out the bottom a bit). Example: A 17rd 9mm mag for a G17 will work in the subcompact G26. Exception: only G36 mags will work in the G36, as it is single stack, and will not accept hi-cap G21 or G30 mags.


    Caliber interchangeability: A .40 caliber Glock can be converted to .357 Sig and vice-versa with a barrel swap to the other caliber. Example: To fire .40 S&W out of a G32, you would replace the G32 barrel with a G23 barrel. It is wise to use different magazines, marked with the correct caliber, as to prevent mixing ammo/bbls, but not absolutely necessary. Some aftermarket firms offer a 9mm conversion barrel for the .40/.357 Glocks, which require using the matching 9mm mags from the corresponding frame size. Example: G23 with a 40-to-9mm bbl would use G19 mags.
     

    doddg

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    Glock doesn't really make it easy, do they?

    1. I can read. Numbers: no!
    2. After all this time I still can't get the computer code numbers for the 8 courses I teach b/c they are so similar.
    3. The difference between EC1413 and GV4013 still gets scrambled in my brain!
     

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    Well, and of course, Glock.com has all the models listed, with specs, etc.

    I personally like Glock's methodology better than some others. I don't have all of them memorized, only the ones I need/have owned (9mm, 40, 45 ACP). Why bother wasting brain space on what the models for the 45 GAP are... except to avoid them, and at that point I'll look it up.
     

    cosermann

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    Apparently no one at Glock had the vision to think, "you know, someday we might have 42 different pistols, we should have a numbering system."

    Nah, let's just number them sequentially as they're released.
     

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    That would have been a good idea.

    G17 = G9
    G17L = G9LS (long slide)
    G18 = G9SF (select fire)
    G19 = G9C (compact)
    G26 = G9SC (subcompact)
    G34 = G9PT (practical/tactical)
    G43 = G9SS (single stack)
     

    russc2542

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    Apparently no one at Glock had the vision to think, "you know, someday we might have 42 different pistols, we should have a numbering system."

    Nah, let's just number them sequentially as they're released.

    That would have been a good idea.

    G17 = G9
    G17L = G9LS (long slide)
    G18 = G9SF (select fire)
    G19 = G9C (compact)
    G26 = G9SC (subcompact)
    G34 = G9PT (practical/tactical)
    G43 = G9SS (single stack)

    Common sense is anything but.

    on a related note, have you looked at cars lately?
     

    snowwalker

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    Glock doesn't really make it easy, do they?

    I'm curious, how is Glock any different than S&W or any other gun manufacturer? All use numbers and letters to distinguish one gun from another and no one that I can recall of denotes caliber in that description. I guess I just miss the purpose here and maybe someone can set me straight.
     

    cosermann

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    Seems like S&W has made attempts over the years. For example, using a "6" for stainless revolver models, three digit models starting with a "3" for lightweight revolvers, and the 3rd generation auto numbering system (first 2 digits caliber, 3rd digit for size/action, 4th digit for finish/material). [1]

    But they never stuck with 1 system, so they've ended up with inconsistent model numbers too.

    Maybe part of this is that numbering/naming models isn't just about classification, but also about marketing.

    And, once you get the marketing folks involved, all bets are off! :)

    [1] - https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/guide-smith-wesson-semi-automatic-models/
     

    snowwalker

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    Seems like S&W has made attempts over the years. For example, using a "6" for stainless revolver models, three digit models starting with a "3" for lightweight revolvers, and the 3rd generation auto numbering system (first 2 digits caliber, 3rd digit for size/action, 4th digit for finish/material). [1]

    But they never stuck with 1 system, so they've ended up with inconsistent model numbers too.

    Maybe part of this is that numbering/naming models isn't just about classification, but also about marketing.

    And, once you get the marketing folks involved, all bets are off! :)

    [1] - https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/guide-smith-wesson-semi-automatic-models/

    That is my point. No matter the system research is required. Part of the problem with S&W is age, as in the new revolvers are not as well made as many of the older ones are. The old adage 'that you get what you pay for' does not apply so much in S&W newer models and S&W 2nd and 3rd gen models are much better than the recent or current models.

    I found it interesting that so many manufacturers copy Glock, at least in part.
     

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    S/W SD9VE = 9mm

    Smith and Wesson SD40VE =.40 caliber

    Smith & Wesson M&P45 Shield = 45 caliber

    S&W M&P9 = 9mm

    Yes, except there are like several different barrel lengths (multiple barrel lengths on just the compact 2.0's now, including 4 " and 3.6" , not to mention the 5" and the full size 4.25", etc and they now have the original versions and then the 2.0's).
     
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