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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggreen View Post
    That escalated quickly lol. You should come shoot Monday night steel at hhrp sometime. I think you'll fall in love, especially with the shadow 2.

    1. Hey, my friend!
    2. Yes, it did: too much reading on the CZ. I'm impressionable, and doing some range time with better "tools" opened me up to "escalation!"
    3. I would like to come and watch to see what it is about. Where? Time? Cost? Too bad school is starting up, life will get busy now.


    Why did you list a tacsport at the end of the last post? Moving up already? Lol congrats on the new pistola.
    3. It was just an example of where to go instead of being tempted to upgrade: take your $400-$600 and get a better "basic" model with built in upgrades, than put it in a gun that will price it out of recovery if you want to sell.
    4. I am fully aware of my vacillating like a little kid in a candy store b/c I like everything and don't have benefit of experience of what to chase after and what to run from.
    5. It took 15 months to find out about CZ, and it is over my "budget" and I'm "maxed" out but not so much that I have to be tempted to sell after enjoying the CZ like I have with other good guns.
    6. My 1911 experience was a teacher. I had a $600 nice Ruger Gov't. Stainless modol (expensive for me), but it didn't bring me anymore joy than other guns.
    7. Why are things different just a very few months later?
    8. The answer is I've changed. Corrupted by others who are diseased with a sickness of prejudicial gun brand opinions.
    9. Yes, I'm trying to deflect my own responsibility in this since I am just as surprised as everyone else, especially those who know me best: this is outrageous behavior. I need help to protect me from the "cajunizers." They will not rest unless a drink the entire cup of Kool-aid. They have no issue with helping me spend my money.

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    Just some thoughts;

    You seem to judge guns by their "accuracy". I guarantee you that every gun you shoot is more accurate than you are. Why do I say that when I don't know you? Because EVERY handgun from a quality maker is more accurate than ANY shooter. Shooting handguns accurately is hard. Only through training and practice does it get any easier.
    You also seem to be flailing around like a kid trying to hit the piñata when the birthday party isn't until next week. I suggest you invest your time and money on training and practice. Exchanging guns for something "better" is fine, it's your money. But it won't get you any closer to being a better shooter. Buying a Tactical Sport won't make you better than having a Shadow 2. It isn't the gun. Laying a foundation of good fundamentals drilled in through extensive practice will serve you much better than exchanging guns every few days. Just my .

    IMO you should pause yourself. Tell yourself that, regardless of what deal appears, you aren't going to buy a new gun or trade for anything for X number of months. Whatever number suits you. Then dedicate yourself to fundamentals and practice. Then see how much improvement you see. Until you can actually feel the differences in triggers buying something different won't really have much effect.
    I really hope this doesn't come off as condescending as I really am just trying to help you out. Take it for what it's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds Away View Post
    Just some thoughts;

    You seem to judge guns by their "accuracy". I guarantee you that every gun you shoot is more accurate than you are. Why do I say that when I don't know you? Because EVERY handgun from a quality maker is more accurate than ANY shooter. Shooting handguns accurately is hard. Only through training and practice does it get any easier.
    You also seem to be flailing around like a kid trying to hit the piñata when the birthday party isn't until next week. I suggest you invest your time and money on training and practice. Exchanging guns for something "better" is fine, it's your money. But it won't get you any closer to being a better shooter. Buying a Tactical Sport won't make you better than having a Shadow 2. It isn't the gun. Laying a foundation of good fundamentals drilled in through extensive practice will serve you much better than exchanging guns every few days. Just my .

    IMO you should pause yourself. Tell yourself that, regardless of what deal appears, you aren't going to buy a new gun or trade for anything for X number of months. Whatever number suits you. Then dedicate yourself to fundamentals and practice. Then see how much improvement you see. Until you can actually feel the differences in triggers buying something different won't really have much effect.
    I really hope this doesn't come off as condescending as I really am just trying to help you out. Take it for what it's worth.
    This is very solid advice.

  4. #24
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    Congratulations on your purchase! I was just wondering what you were gonna do with it.
    Whether you were gonna carry it or home defense it or whatever.
    ENJOY it and shoot the heck out of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G192127 View Post
    Congratulations on your purchase! I was just wondering what you were gonna do with it.
    Whether you were gonna carry it or home defense it or whatever.
    ENJOY it and shoot the heck out of it!
    1. I intend to, thanks!
    2. Since I don’t get too emotionally attached to any one gun, it is just a tool to me, so I am surprised at how much enjoyment I’m getting for having purchased this Shadow 2.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggreen View Post
    That escalated quickly lol. You should come shoot Monday night steel at hhrp sometime. I think you'll fall in love, especially with the shadow 2.

    Why did you list a tacsport at the end of the last post? Moving up already? Lol congrats on the new pistola.
    I really should come out and give it a try. What time does it start?
    "If things seem under control, you are just not going fast enough"--Mario Andretti

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregkl View Post
    I really should come out and give it a try. What time does it start?
    6 PM every other Monday night. Get there between 5 an 5:30 to get signed in.

    https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/s...18-season.html

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...cc/edit?pli=1#

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds Away View Post
    Just some thoughts;

    You seem to judge guns by their "accuracy". I guarantee you that every gun you shoot is more accurate than you are.

    1. I do judge a gun by how accurate it is: guilty.
    2. Believe me, I know the gun is more accurate than I am.
    I have always known this and I am reminded of it when I can’t see the target hardly at the end of my gun barrel.


    Why do I say that when I don't know you? Because EVERY handgun from a quality maker is more accurate than ANY shooter. Shooting handguns accurately is hard. Only through training and practice does it get any easier.
    You also seem to be flailing around like a kid trying to hit the piñata when the birthday party isn't until next week.

    3. Correct. The analogy I used was a “kid in a candy store.“

    I suggest you invest your time and money on training and practice.

    4. I have.
    5. I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rounds the summer:
    a few thousand.
    6. By the end of this day, I will have taken three classes, each about four or five hours long.
    7. I have a class coming up this fall that lasts all day, I just hope I have the stamina to get through the day.


    Exchanging guns for something "better" is fine, it's your money. But it won't get you any closer to being a better shooter.

    8. I have not found this to be the case.
    That is why I moved up the ladder with different, more accurate guns, especially focusing on the joy of everything CZ!
    9. The Glock 26 was more accurate than most or all, if not all of the 9mms I have tried up to that point.
    10. The FNS Longslide was also more accurate then most:
    enough to keep me hanging on to a large polymer gun when I really wanted a heavy metal one.
    11. Each CZ I bought was more accurate than the previous one.
    That is why I kept buying a different model.
    12. Some guns I owned we’re not accurate at all and I hated them And they were dismissed forthwith.


    Buying a Tactical Sport won't make you better than having a Shadow 2. It isn't the gun.

    11. The tactical support was simply an illustration.

    Laying a foundation of good fundamentals drilled in through extensive practice will serve you much better than exchanging guns every few days. Just my .

    12. I agree about the good fundamentals.
    This is why I have pursued training.
    This is why getting together with other men from the club has been quite profitable to me since they can tutor me and I can profit from their experience.
    13. I will stop exchanging guns every day.
    14. I sold a gun just this morning. I am selling a gun tomorrow. I am putting another an ad in the paper to sell this weekend:
    CZ SP-01 Tactical and I have my FNS Longslide I can sell now that I have the Shadow, which will be listed also.
    15. I started the summer wanting to trim and did so alot in the Spring.
    16. If I would’ve stayed out of this CZ thread, apparently you would’ve been happier with my journey because I would’ve bought three less guns:
    each which brought me happiness, and for an old man who leads a boring life, it has been downright exciting!


    IMO you should pause yourself. Tell yourself that, regardless of what deal appears, you aren't going to buy a new gun or trade for anything for X number of months. Whatever number suits you. Then dedicate yourself to fundamentals and practice. Then see how much improvement you see. Until you can actually feel the differences in triggers buying something different won't really have much effect.
    I really hope this doesn't come off as condescending as I really am just trying to help you out. Take it for what it's worth.
    17. I am on pause with buying.
    18. Buying something different has added to my accuracy, as evidenced by my range targets.
    19. Now that I have the Shadow,
    with a good trigger,
    I think your point is well made.
    20. I don’t mind the criticism: it is the quickest route to improvement. I’ve always made it my job to learn not just from my friends but those who are negative,
    and I have some critical friends: so I’ve learned a lot in my life, Ha!
    Last edited by doddg; 07-24-2018 at 07:51.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    6 PM every other Monday night. Get there between 5 an 5:30 to get signed in.

    https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/s...18-season.html

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...cc/edit?pli=1#
    Thanks. That might be a little too tight for me since I don't get out of work until 5 and sometimes a little after.
    "If things seem under control, you are just not going fast enough"--Mario Andretti

  10. #30
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    I predict doddg will be keeping the Shadow 2 for the long term and that no Cajun upgrades will be needed or desired.

    I also predict he will be wanting to get back out to the outdoor range with me and attack the plate rack and dueling tree again.

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