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    Plinker

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    Sig 320

    Just wanted to know what members are thinking about this gun. Been out there for a while, was it a good choice for our troops? What think ye?

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    Grandmaster Kirk Freeman's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmonyaudio View Post
    Just wanted to know what members are thinking about this gun. Been out there for a while, was it a good choice for our troops? What think ye?
    Have had my M17s for some time now. Enjoy them. Have Gray Guns trigger in one, very nice. I wish safety was bigger but can live with it.

    Was hard to find mags as Big Army was gobbling them all up. Pipeline is now steady.

    I see no reason to switch from M9 but those decisions are above me. Handgun is such a minor part of TOundE that it does not matter. Personally I would have no problem with PODA standard but then I don't make those decisions.
    A Sigma and a SIGma male

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    Good guns. Everyone I've touched was well made, reliable and accurate. I picked up an M17 recently and it sits in my bedside safe for bumps in the night. No issues, no problems. The wackos will be along shortly to scream about MIM and India, I'm sure...

    As Kirk said: Pistols sure aren't the main arm of the military. Heck, even infantry weapons in general aren't the war winners. It's logistics, close air support, artillery, vehicle weapons, etc... Infantry arms come in last in terms of what wins a war, pistols being a REALLY close last. Personally think that truck drivers, medics, etc... would have been better suited with PDWs rather than pistols, but who cares what I think. Nothing wrong with the M9s, but some brass (now likely with a fat contract with an arms manufacturer) convinced the armed services they required modular pistols to crush the Russians/Chinese/(insert America's next military quagmire here).
    It's over for now... it seems... until yesterday begins again...tomorrow...

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    The M9ís are getting wore out the last one I was issued had a nice silver gray color!
    Other factors that fed the decision we have more than the M9 in service the M11 (P228) and varieties of Glock can also be witnessed. It makes sense to adopt a modular system that can adapt to different roles.
    A pistol is a sidearm most Soldiers do not carry them and they are considered defensive firearms so I concur with DH and Kirk pistols are not a priority. In many units the CO,XO,1SG are the only ones issued a pistol so it really depends on what type of unit you land in and your MOS if a Soldier is issued or even trained on a pistol.

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    In 24 years my pistol left itís holster twice.
    U.S. Army retired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad69 View Post
    The M9ís are getting wore out the last one I was issued had a nice silver gray color!
    Hear me out, I know this is crazy and may violate several dozen Army regs, but what if . . . we just bought more M9s?

    A Sigma and a SIGma male

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    I don't own an M17 but I have owned two P320s for years now, a compact 9 mm and a full-size .45 ACP. I see no reason that the P320 will not serve our armed forces very well.

    Having said that, the P320 is a polymer-frame, striker-fired pistol in a sea of similar pistols and other choices would doubtless also have served as well. I do think that the three different sizes of grip modules for the P320 allow for a much better fit to hand than the interchangeable back straps of Glocks and other pistols.

    I also own a Beretta 92FS and a couple of model 1911 A1s, so I really don't have any dogs in that fight. The Beretta was one of the first auto-loading pistols I owned, and it has long been one of my favorites. But the Beretta is a large, heavy pistol that no longer offers any magazine capacity advantage over pistols like the M17, M18. The Beretta grip is chunky, and the pistol can be problematical for those with smaller hands trying to deal with the double-action trigger. I think it was inevitable that the armed forces were going to go with a lighter, polymer-framed pistol that was cheaper to produce, and a striker-action pistol with a simpler manual of arms than the DA/SA Beretta at some point in time. This seems to me to be as good a time to do that as any, and investing in a more modern design makes more sense IMO than buying more Berettas.
    Last edited by pblanc; 3 Weeks Ago at 13:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Hear me out, I know this is crazy and may violate several dozen Army regs, but what if . . . we just bought more M9s?

    ok hear ME out...what if the army just bought a less expensive gun that was just as reliable BUT either saved the taxpayers money OR allowed the government to spend the same total contract amount, and buy MORE pistols!
    Never too many sigs in your safe!-mike4sigs

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootersix View Post
    ok hear ME out...what if the army just bought a less expensive gun that was just as reliable BUT either saved the taxpayers money OR allowed the government to spend the same total contract amount, and buy MORE pistols!
    You just want me to say "Get a Glock!"
    A Sigma and a SIGma male

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    You just want me to say "Get a Glock!"
    I literally am lol'ing right now!!!!!

    I have 2 p320's and 3 glocks (2-19's and a 21), and in the past month, ive carried a p320, and a glock 19!(because I couldn't find the holster for my 320), knowing the "mentality" of some military people (not ALL!!!) and the fact that I love my 320's more than my glocks! don't tell anyone this (especially anyone who knows me!)...I might have to agree with you!, imho, glocks are the perfect gun for police, military, crayon eaters, slack jawed bogger eating morons, and just about any other opposed thumb primate that tries to pound square pegs into round holes!

    NO OFFENSE TO GLOCK OWNERS!!!!!!!!, but theres a reason why they're the chosen weapon of police and military's around the world, they're idiot proof!, its almost impossible to make a glock not go bang when you put your bogger hook on the bang switch!

    tbh the only troublesome glocks I see are the ones that people futz with!, change springs, triggers, bubba up the street trigger jobs and so on...we had a guy at a steel challenge match who couldn't get thru a string on a stage without at least one jam, yep, you guessed it, he'd futzed with his glock 34, hell I futzed with one of mine and was getting double taps (it was fun, but I had to "unfutz" it)

    in my closing statements to the jury (get the lawyer reference!, lol) i'd like to state that while i'm happy the government chose the p320, i'd like to think that the glock would have been just as good!
    Never too many sigs in your safe!-mike4sigs

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    Plinker

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    I am looking into getting one myself. I have heard that the Gen 1s had safety issues but the Gen 2s were great. 1. is there any truth to that? 2. If so, How can you tell the difference between gen1 and gen 2?

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