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  1. #21
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    As a famous .22LR expert once told me: quit worrying about accuracy & just find a gun you enjoy shooting, which won't necessarily be the most accurate (or something like that).
    His name is Aeroflyer.
    There is a lot of truth to that. I recently picked up a Smith 617-1 22 revolver and when accuracy testing from a rest I found it to be less accurate than my MKIIs or 41 which is not surpising but free handed I still shoot it at times nearly as well as the more accurate guns.

    As to the Ruger vs Buckmark I have had great experiences with various MKIIs and 1st gen 22/45s and have never even fired a Buckmark. Most of my best targets in over 30 years of handgun shooting have been shot with MKIIs or 22/45s. Only other 22 semi-auto pistol I have is a Smith 41.

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    When it comes right down to it, If you compare your other guns to a smith 41 then go buy a 41, I have seen 1 pistol (41) that was unreliable, and the person sent it back to smith and they put a whole new barrel and spring assembly and it still had the exact same problem. I shot it and it didn't have any issues. the guy sold it and the next owner didn't have any issues.

    The issues seemed to follow to owner and not the next people who shot it.

    Maybe it wasn't the gun.
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  3. #23
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    I am surprised no one has mentioned the S&W Victory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootin45super View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned the S&W Victory!

    I've had 4 of them.
    Great value!

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    I almost did. I definitely prefer it to a buckmark but I can never stay away from from rugers. Gave up my victory performance center today for rugers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootin45super View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned the S&W Victory!

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    If you are a modder take the serialized part into consideration. Ruger is on the upper Buckmark is on the lower. Both fantastic guns. Got rid of mine since price went stupid on .22lr.
    I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on.

  7. #27
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    I looked hard at Buckmark, S&W Victory, and the Ruger MKIV recently.
    This is MY takeaway from the research and conversations I had while trying to make a decision on which one would be best for me, I'm not bashing.
    Reliability - I saw a lot of comments about Victory having issues
    Accuracy - probably all the same, exceed most people capabilities
    Aftermarket - Big win for the Ruger, you can get anything you want
    Price seemed competative between the all.
    Availability - Ruger (at the time)

    I got the Ruger MKIV 22/45 tactical and had fun upgrading it and shooting thousands of rounds without issue. I shoot cheep bulk Thunderbolts and the good stuff CCI Mini Mags. The CCI is more accurate but both run fine.
    The trigger out of the box on the Ruger needed some help but there are plenty of options out there and they are pretty easy to work on.

    I guess the aftermarket support probably was the deciding factor for me to go to the MKIV, I wanted something I could "tinker" with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinker556 View Post
    I looked hard at Buckmark, S&W Victory, and the Ruger MKIV recently.
    This is MY takeaway from the research and conversations I had while trying to make a decision on which one would be best for me, I'm not bashing.
    Reliability - I saw a lot of comments about Victory having issues
    Accuracy - probably all the same, exceed most people capabilities
    Aftermarket - Big win for the Ruger, you can get anything you want
    Price seemed competative between the all.
    Availability - Ruger (at the time)

    I got the Ruger MKIV 22/45 tactical and had fun upgrading it and shooting thousands of rounds without issue. I shoot cheep bulk Thunderbolts and the good stuff CCI Mini Mags. The CCI is more accurate but both run fine.
    The trigger out of the box on the Ruger needed some help but there are plenty of options out there and they are pretty easy to work on.

    I guess the aftermarket support probably was the deciding factor for me to go to the MKIV, I wanted something I could "tinker" with.

    Enjoyed reading your "take" on these guns.
    I've had:
    - 4 Buckmarks (a 7.25" Hunter presently)
    - 4 Victorys, including a Performance Center, but none presently
    - 3 Mark 4s (1 presently) & 2 Mark 3s (one presently)

    I have enjoyed them all, and your comment about accuracy is probably spot on.
    Someday, now that I have optics on all of them, I'll do a challenge to see if any shoots any better than the other.
    That would probably vary depending on the kind of day I'm having.
    At that point, it would probably be which is the better optic I'm using on a particular gun.

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    Plinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddg View Post
    Enjoyed reading your "take" on these guns.
    I've had:
    - 4 Buckmarks (a 7.25" Hunter presently)
    - 4 Victorys, including a Performance Center, but none presently
    - 3 Mark 4s (1 presently) & 2 Mark 3s (one presently)

    I have enjoyed them all, and your comment about accuracy is probably spot on.
    Someday, now that I have optics on all of them, I'll do a challenge to see if any shoots any better than the other.
    That would probably vary depending on the kind of day I'm having.
    At that point, it would probably be which is the better optic I'm using on a particular gun.
    You would know better than I would about these three, I haven't owned a Buckmark or Victory.
    I am a S&W fan and wanted to like the Victory, how was reliability with the ones you owned?

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    I have had plenty of all of them. No real reliability problems with any of them and like them all. Ruger is and will always be most popular and most aftermarket support. I feel the buckmark and smith are better out of the box. My favorite is the victory. I like stainless and feel this points the most natural for me. Enough aftermarket support to do anything I want with it. I have fun back and forth the last few years between them all but this is my most current and one I plan to upgrade some. Honestly wouldn’t say any are better than other. Just all comes down to preference and feel
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