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    Le mot juste blue falcon's Avatar
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    I just sent this to Jim Lucas.

    Sir,


    Thank you for your efforts for gun rights in Indiana. I hope that with letters we can get the Const. Carry bill to a vote and hopefully it will pass this year.


    The thing I would like the Legislature to do is revise (IC 35-47-2-11 wrong cite) IC 35-47-11.1 to give the State Legislature Preeminence in 2A issues. As the law now stands it does not prohibit Stare agencies from banning firearms with their Administrative code.


    Case in point, The IDNR has banned both concealed and open carry of firearms on their ranges. Now licensed carriers have to disarm and re arm in parking lots where there is no safe direction to do so. A negligent discharge could be catastrophic, causing injury or death. This could open not only the carrier but the state to lawsuits. The safest place for a firearm is the holster.


    I and many that I know have stopped using DNR ranges. Indiana Gun Owners has, for the last 5 years, helped sponsor a Family Range Day at Winamac. This year there are only a handful of volunteers to continue this effort. The reason is the new Administrative rules. https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/i...ml#post7376062


    Please consider this for future legislation.


    Again Thank You, Tom


    Edit: The IC I quoted was incorrect it should be IC 35-47-11.1
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    Originally Posted by hoosierdoc

    There's no other logical point other than confiscation.

    When patients go into vfib and die you have minutes to shock them and save them. Ambulances often take too long. So geniuses said "let's make AEDs and put them everywhere". Now citizens can act as first responders and save lives.

    Armed citizens are the AEDs for active shooters



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    Quote Originally Posted by blue falcon View Post
    I just sent this to Jim Lucas.

    Sir,


    Thank you for your efforts for gun rights in Indiana. I hope that with letters we can get the Const. Carry bill to a vote and hopefully it will pass this year.


    The thing I would like the Legislature to do is revise IC 35-47-2-11 to give the State Legislature Preeminence in 2A issues. As the law now stands it does not prohibit Stare agencies from banning firearms with their Administrative code.


    Case in point, The IDNR has banned both concealed and open carry of firearms on their ranges. Now licensed carriers have to disarm and re arm in parking lots where there is no safe direction to do so. A negligent discharge could be catastrophic, causing injury or death. This could open not only the carrier but the state to lawsuits. The safest place for a firearm is the holster.


    I and many that I know have stopped using DNR ranges. Indiana Gun Owners has, for the last 5 years, helped sponsor a Family Range Day at Winamac. This year there are only a handful of volunteers to continue this effort. The reason is the new Administrative rules. https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/i...ml#post7376062


    Please consider this for future legislation.


    Again Thank You, Tom
    Thanks for writing. I will do the same and mail out Monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    We dont have 13/15 volunteers yet so we cant field the event yet. :/
    How many volunteers are we lacking as of now?

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    Well if this falls apart I will donate the 100 to a place that focuses on youth training.
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    Let's try to keep it going at least until after the M&E.
    Originally Posted by hoosierdoc

    There's no other logical point other than confiscation.

    When patients go into vfib and die you have minutes to shock them and save them. Ambulances often take too long. So geniuses said "let's make AEDs and put them everywhere". Now citizens can act as first responders and save lives.

    Armed citizens are the AEDs for active shooters



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    I must have missed something. I gather from the posts that I can't have my EDC on my hip, but I can walk around with it in a soft, zippered gun case while I'm at a DNR gun range? I don't get it, but I'll still pitch in at the family shoot. Shouldn't let a little horse-hooey get in the way of a good event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chemteach View Post
    I must have missed something. I gather from the posts that I can't have my EDC on my hip, but I can walk around with it in a soft, zippered gun case while I'm at a DNR gun range? I don't get it, but I'll still pitch in at the family shoot. Shouldn't let a little horse-hooey get in the way of a good event.
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    We have 9 CONFIRMED as of right now with 2 maybes.
    We lost 2 from last year due to the new rules.
    We need a MINIMUM of 15 in order to do the event.
    At that 15 is just the instructors and ROs. It does not count any backup instructors to allow those on the line some time off, cooks, photographers, ammo/water runners, safety table. Ideally we need 23+ members.

    I have updated post 5 with the names
    https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/i...ml#post7368655

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    actaeon's dad has volunteered.

    I'm waiting on a text from Adam (brother).
    "Una salus victis nullam sperare salutem."

    "A citizen may not be required to offer a 'good and substantial reason' why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The rights existence is all the reason he needs." Benson Everett Legg - Woolard v. Sheridan

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    Quote Originally Posted by actaeon277 View Post
    actaeon's dad has volunteered.

    I'm waiting on a text from Adam (brother).
    Awesome! We've got to be close on volunteers needed after looking back thru the thread for commitments.
    Paging Jedi. Whats our volunteer count at?

    Edit*** just seen jedis post upthread. Still need quite a few yet it looks like


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