IL Motions for 2nd Extension

[Kirk Freeman]

For crying out loud! Once more Lisa Madigan hangs up the phone after saying "yes, father" and files a motion to extend the 7th Circuit's order on Illinois carry this time with the Supreme Court.

Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » AG Madigan wants second concealed carry appeal extension with US Supreme Court

 

[actaeon277]

Please. I'll definitely have my homework done "this time".

 

[Cameramonkey]

I hope and pray they drag thier asses. I cant WAIT to see them be FORCED to enact constitutional carry.

The'll be cleaning up brainmatter off the walls all over the state; not from violence but from the collective heads asploding of the liberals who dont understand why chicago has one of the strictest gun laws yet has some of the highest crime rates in the country. They just dont understand why the criminals dont listen to the laws...

 

[jrm400]

surprise

Chicago runs the prairie state. Plain and simple the Chicago machine is playing chess here. Constitutional carry is not possible as Quinn would sign the bill on his desk if it came to the last second and he had no other moves but that is not likely to happen. The masters of citizen control in office have no intention of allowing any type of carry. I don't know what tactics they will use but I do know we are about to see.

 

[LPMan59]

I hope and pray they drag thier asses. I cant WAIT to see them be FORCED to enact constitutional carry.

this would be a nightmare. It would allow each and every subunit to pass their own laws. as it stands now, the old laws aren't preempted, but new ones cannot be enacted. and while the law isn't nearly as good as Indiana's, Chicago did NOT get special treatment and that is worth something.

IL residents didn't get a great bill, but hopefully they can rework it in time (hopefully some reciprocity with IN).

 

[1911ly]

If you think about it you will figure out the gang bangers don't want people to be able to protect themselves. They are voting now. In large numbers! Chicago is a toilet bowl swirling down. Pulling the rest of the state with it. Hopefully when the flush is over.... na won't happen.

 

[Jerchap2]

 

[CathyInBlue]

this would be a nightmare. It would allow each and every subunit to pass their own laws. as it stands now, the old laws aren't preempted, but new ones cannot be enacted. and while the law isn't nearly as good as Indiana's, Chicago did NOT get special treatment and that is worth something.

IL residents didn't get a great bill, but hopefully they can rework it in time (hopefully some reciprocity with IN).

I simply don't buy the argument that Constitutional Carry in Illinois would be a nightmare. Yes, their FOID card system would still be in effect. Yes, local munis could, and we all know they would, still create a patchwork of BS gun regs that would have the same effect as a defacto gun ban within their borders… So?

The Illinois Democrats in general, and the Chicago Machine in particular, were only drug to the bargaining table because of their heinous gun laws. The longer the Right-wing and the gun-owners in Illinois hold out for all the marbles, the more marbles they will actually get to take home. It will only take a couple of munis, Chicago included, getting taken back to the 7th Circuit woodshed for their particular ordinances restricting ConCarriers in ways X, Y, and Z to get ways X, Y, and Z tossed on the ash heap of history alongside may-issue in the prairie state.

Keep the faith. Hold the line. We can get for our neighbors to the west a better state-wide firearms regulatory environment than even we in Indiana enjoy. State-wide preemption. Shall-issue. No "assault weapons" bans. No magazine limits. Abbreviated no-go zone list. No open-carry limitations.

 

[jgreiner]

They should GRANT teh extension...but allow CONSTITUTIONAL carry until it is resolved.

 

[1911ly]

They should GRANT teh extension...but allow CONSTITUTIONAL carry until it is resolved.

I agree! Here is another story from the windy city:

Chicago Shootings: 6 Killed, 13 Wounded Overnight Sunday; 36 Shot Over Weekend

Great place to live if you are a gang banger.

 

[MikeDVB]

Not surprised. If they get it I'm sure they'll ask for a third.

 

[LCSOSgt11]

I'm not surprised either. If IL gets carry legislation, watch. The process will be long and expensive.

For such a gun hating state, they sure have a lot of gun violence in Chicago. No surprise there, either.

 

[Hotdoger]

If you think about it you will figure out the gang bangers don't want people to be able to protect themselves. They are voting now. In large numbers! Chicago is a toilet bowl swirling down. Pulling the rest of the state with it. Hopefully when the flush is over.... na won't happen.

I call BS.
Plenty of Demorats in East St. Louis, Champaign, Peoria, Joliet, Carbondale, Moline .

They infest the whole state.

Lots of farmers living off the government teat.

To say Chicago controls Il. is total BS.

Chicago - population

2,707,120 (2011)


Il. Population, 2012 estimate 12,875,255

 

[KLB]

I call BS.
Plenty of Demorats in East St. Louis, Champaign, Peoria, Joliet, Carbondale, Moline .

They infest the whole state.

Lots of farmers living off the government teat.

To say Chicago controls Il. is total BS.

Chicago - population

2,707,120 (2011)


Il. Population, 2012 estimate 12,875,255

Cook county is over 5 million. In the last election Obama got just over 3 million votes. 1 1/2 million of those were in Cook county.

23 counties had Obama majorities. 78 had Romney majorities.

From Wikipedia

Obama's victory in Illinois was due to an overwhelmingly strong vote total in Cook County, which includes Illinois' largest city, Chicago. Obama won Cook County by 74%, receiving 1,488,537 votes, compared to Romney who received only 24.6% of the votes in Cook County, or 495,542 votes.[2] The importance of the vote in Chicago and the rest of Cook County to Obama's victory in Illinois can be illustrated by a hypothetical scenario in which its votes are not included in the overall state total. If one were to subtract all of the votes in Cook County from Illinois' total votes cast, Romney would have actually won Illinois, having received 1,629,863 votes (50.62%) in the rest of the state, compared to Obama, who received 1,524,886 votes (47.36%). This, despite Obama's good performance in the suburban collar counties, which are considered swing counties.

 

[1911ly]

Of course Obama got cook county. How many people in cook county are at the poverty level. I don't have the figures but I am sure it's high. The votes always lean toward the most open pockets.

 

[jesse485]

I call BS.
Plenty of Demorats in East St. Louis, Champaign, Peoria, Joliet, Carbondale, Moline .

They infest the whole state.

Lots of farmers living off the government teat.

To say Chicago controls Il. is total BS.

Chicago - population

2,707,120 (2011)


Il. Population, 2012 estimate 12,875,255

The whole metropolitan area is something like 9.5M. I've driven through northern IL into WI, once you get outside the metro area, there isn't much.