U of Mich ban upheld

[throttletony]

Hi all - as a former Hoosier living in Wolverine territory, I thought you might be interested in seeing this. A state appeals court upheld that U of Michigan (all campuses and all U of Mich properties can ban guns. The decision was 2-1.

Court: University of Michigan can ban guns on campus

 

[Cygnus]

Can this be revisited after/if MI passes constitutional carry bill that's going on now?

 

[throttletony]

Can this be revisited after/if MI passes constitutional carry bill that's going on now?

not sure. I doubt it. They're basically giving the (public/state) University the privileges of a private business.
On my MI CPL (yes, it's a CPL here in MI, not a LTCH), it specifically states that I can't carry in "Dormitory or classroom of community college, college, or university." But, MI law allows some type of preemption for UofM, MichState, and at least one other university, which I can't remember at the moment.
It gets even trickier because the University owns A LOT of properties in Ann Arbor. So, I assume that carrying there would be illegal, but it may not be clearly marked or commonly known that it is a university-owned area.

I only think this would change if a NATIONAL law were passed that allowed carrying at all public/state universities

 

[Kutnupe14]

Meh, It's a ban on guns they can see.

 

[throttletony]

Meh, It's a ban on guns they can see.

It carries force of law though - so it's not just a "trespassing issue"

*this is that preemption/exemption that I mentioned in previous post

 

[Kutnupe14]

It carries force of law though - so it's not just a "trespassing issue"

OOOOOH, well that changes things. Its a ban. asses

 

[throttletony]

OOOOOH, well that changes things. Its a ban. asses

agreed. But to the point of your last post, like all laws,it only applies to folks that obey the laws...

 

[rugertoter]

Does not surprise me none. In Indiana, one cannot carry on a college campus either.

 

[Rookie]

Does not surprise me none. In Indiana, one cannot carry on a college campus either.

Yes, you can.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Does not surprise me none. In Indiana, one cannot carry on a college campus either.

Define "one "

 

[lonehoosier]

Does not surprise me none. In Indiana, one cannot carry on a college campus either.

What! There's no law that said you can't carrier on collage campus.

 

[throttletony]

Since osme of us are talking tongue-in-cheek, and it might be lost on others, let me clarify.
In IN, the law states that it is illegal to carry in daycares and schools (meaning K-12). The STATE law does NOT criminalize carrying on campus. However, the universities have banned carrying as a matter of school policy - not state law. So, I can be expelled as a student or fired as an employee, but after the legal dust settles, there should not be criminal charges for breaking state law. This assumes that there was no threatening, menacing, brandishing, etc.

In Michigan, by contrast, they have criminalized carrying on university property. The OP talks about how this ban was upheld.

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

https://www.google.com/amp/wane.com/2016/09/01/man-with-a-gun-reported-on-ball-states-campus/amp/

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Sooooo..... they TELL us we're free......

 

[throttletony]

Exqctly.
And, thanks for the link

 

[jedi]

Since osme of us are talking tongue-in-cheek, and it might be lost on others, let me clarify.
In IN, the law states that it is illegal to carry in daycares and schools (meaning K-12). The STATE law does NOT criminalize carrying on campus. However, the universities have banned carrying as a matter of school policy - not state law. So, I can be expelled as a student or fired as an employee or as a private citizen told to leave the property of else charge with treaspassing, but after the legal dust settles, there should not be criminal charges for breaking state law. This assumes that there was no threatening, menacing, brandishing, etc.

In Michigan, by contrast, they have criminalized carrying on university property. The OP talks about how this ban was upheld.

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Added one more for you.

 

[throttletony]

Added one more for you.

U nailed it, thanks.