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    Quote Originally Posted by jamil View Post
    We should be very public in disagreeing with that.
    We don't need to wrestle with the pig. It's their only game and they like it.

    If there is message we need to get out, it needs to be on our own terms. Not going to their protest, in their pig sty. Nothing to be gained there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    We don't need to wrestle with the pig. It's their only game and they like it.

    If there is message we need to get out, it needs to be on our own terms. Not going to their protest, in their pig sty. Nothing to be gained there.
    No. We're not wrestling with a pig. It's not a pig sty. It's not any other metaphor one might conjure to imagine our opponents are inhuman. These protestors are real people with real lives who have mostly been led into activism by other people with agendas. This is a conflict between ideas. It does not validate their inaccurate portrayal of our position to supply an accurate portrayal of our position.
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    As far as "gun control frenzy", aside from the damage already done by the Florida shooting (President making orders to ban bump stocks, etc)... today's shooting should technically help quiet the riot. It was an ideal situation... shooter killed by an armed response, and as of right now, no other deaths.

    It's unfortunate that a 17 year old is dead, obviously... but it's a situation that could have been much worse, and it turned out near-ideal.

    Package bombs and porn stars might take this over in the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamil View Post
    Republicans have made the same argument for years, that we shouldn't legitimize the the straw men portrayal by publicly disagreeing with it. I think that's nonsense.

    If people are out there saying that law abiding gun owners have the blood of those students on their hands, law abiding gun owners need to push back on that. When we don't push back, we ARE legitimatizing what they're saying. Not denying it publicly is taken as tacit agreement.

    But. Pushing back shouldn't be any more than pointing out the absurdity of the claims.

    We care about children too. We're parents too. We're family people too. We hurt for the lives lost too. We're as outraged about school shootings as anyone. We disagree that further gun control is the answer. We think it's more productive to talk about the failure of the current laws that led up to this. We think we should be talking about mental health. We think we should be talking about what is creating these kinds of monsters. But instead the zealots are talking about "Assault Weapons" that spray bullets in "full semi-automatic".

    We should be very public in disagreeing with that.
    I agree.
    If all people hear is the anti-gun side, guess what's going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actaeon277 View Post
    ...If all people hear is the anti-gun side, guess what's going to happen.
    No one will pay any attention...


    ...unless there is conflict.

    ...Then the press will focus on the ten or twenty or hundred to one numbers first.
    ...Next will be the guns the knuckle dragging mouth breathers brought to "shoot the kids."
    ...Somewhere in there will be every aspect of gun toters appearance, noting the White Nationalist similarities.

    There is noting to gain by going to the youth's protest. Only losing will be portrayed, thus emboldening the children/anti's.

    If there is need to express anything, much better to do it on our own at our own rally/celebration/whatever positive term you'd like to call it.
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    I agree that there is little to nothing to be gained by counter protesting a gun control rally or march. It WILL be framed by the media as gun owners looking for a confrontation, trying to intimidate, etc.

    But we must engage and counter this gun control nonsense in the comment sections of news articles and on social media. Respond calmly with facts and sources. Do not curse of make personal insults, but attack their weak ideas and false claims.

    Eventually they will result to hyperbole, insults, lies and deflection. It's all they know how to do.

    People in the center will see through the unhinged tantrums of the gun grabbers and ultimately reject it in time.
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    'Fix NICS' and 'STOP School Violence' bills are both included in the omnibus
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    Hogg is called out.

    (language, from Hogg of course)
    "Una salus victis nullam sperare salutem."

    "A citizen may not be required to offer a 'good and substantial reason' why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The rights existence is all the reason he needs." Benson Everett Legg - Woolard v. Sheridan

    If you're a noob, develop thick skin, and read the FAQs

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    And England still has a "knife problem".
    No guns (supposedl).
    Elizabeth Hurley's adult son was stabbed.
    "Una salus victis nullam sperare salutem."

    "A citizen may not be required to offer a 'good and substantial reason' why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The rights existence is all the reason he needs." Benson Everett Legg - Woolard v. Sheridan

    If you're a noob, develop thick skin, and read the FAQs

    Actaeon - act'-tee-on
    The death of Actaeon - http://www.paleothea.com/Myths/Actaeon.html


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    You see me empty, sir, do not pause and inquire. Simply assume and refill.

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