Indiana vs. Utah: Indiana 0 Utah +1

[indyjohn]

Teachers keeping guns with them while at work is not a new idea. Not in Utah for the last 10 years anyway. Pay attention to item (4)(a) and Section 53-5-704 (Concealed Carry Permit Holders). Google it, Indiana is behind the times.

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter10/76-10-S505.5.html

 

[brotherbill3]

Time to do some digging - thanks for the reference.

 

[Mgderf]

Guns? In schools? Around CHILDREN?

 

[indyjohn]

Time to do some digging - thanks for the reference.

State Representative Jim Lucas pointed this out to me http://iga.in.gov/static-documents/0/e/3/1/0e310c20/TITLE35_AR47_ch9.pdf

I am thinking the limitation in Indiana is Joe Biden's fault with the 1990 "Gun Free Zone" legislation: section 1702 of the Crime Control Act of 1990.

 

[Kutnupe14]

They're Mormons. They don't need guns. The just need black slacks, white button-ups, a backpack and a clipboard; and no one is ever going to mess with them.

 

[bwframe]

If I understand it correctly, with permission from the school administration/board, it's legal to carry on school property in IN?

Of course, that permission is a unicorn?

 

[brotherbill3]

If I understand it correctly, with permission from the school administration/board, it's legal to carry on school property in IN?

Of course, that permission is a unicorn?

Provided you're legal otherwise (requires LTCH to clear USC ... sorry forget that reference)
and a Pink Unicorn with rainbow stripes.


Though I know someone gathering petitions in their area now and going to the school board.
The word i got back was "The Superintendent told me - no one has ever asked about it ... "

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Teachers keeping guns with them while at work is not a new idea. Not in Utah for the last 10 years anyway. Pay attention to item (4)(a) and Section 53-5-704 (Concealed Carry Permit Holders). Google it, Indiana is behind the times.

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter10/76-10-S505.5.html

Um, you can do the same thing in Indiana and you could do the same thing far, far longer than 10 years. How is Indiana behind the times?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Um, you can do the same thing in Indiana and you could do the same thing far, far longer than 10 years. How is Indiana behind the times?

Utah firearm preemption statute includes public schools/universities. In IN you can ask for permission to be allowed to carry, in UT they can't tell you no. Heck you don't even have to ask in the first place. There are a couple of school districts that do regulate carry, but it is limited to a few and things like must be concealed and/or no off body carry.

 

[Alamo]

Utah firearm preemption statute includes public schools/universities. In IN you can ask for permission to be allowed to carry, in UT they can't tell you no. ...

I just read the linked references. Very interesting. I didn't know any state did that.

 

[brotherbill3]

I just read the linked references. Very interesting. I didn't know any state did that.

I have heard of another (state) -forget which (one) - (I am) pretty sure it was a "MAY ISSUE" state - that also was ridiculously hard to get (a permit). ... also - could have heard wrong.

ETA () filled in and that I think anyone w/ license could carry into a school .... wasn't just teacher / admin and it was anyone w/ a Permit/License.

(sorry keyboarding failure when entering original version.)

 

[indyjohn]

How is Indiana behind the times?

From what I've read, teachers in Utah are fairly proactive about exercising this right. Indiana is behind because we are not proactively exercising this. Oh, and stop thread skimming.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

From what I've read, teachers in Utah are fairly proactive about exercising this right. Indiana is behind because we are not proactively exercising this. Oh, and stop thread skimming.

Then that is on the teachers, not the State.

 

[Reagan40]

School boards in IN can designate employees as school security officers allowing them to carry concealed if they have an Indiana LTCH. I am aware of some school corporations that have implemented this, mostly very conservatively. It isn’t usually opened up to any employees, but just the ones that the superintendent decides to approach. It is also usually considered “top secret” in the education world. The vast majority of the teachers don’t even know this is happening in their building. This is for 2 reasons. First, to keep people from freaking out. Second, to keep the element of surprise. If you have 2-3 authorized ina building, you don’t want the bad guy to know who to take out first, or who to avoid.

 

[Robert Richardson]

They're Mormons. They don't need guns. The just need black slacks, white button-ups, a backpack and a clipboard; and no one is ever going to mess with them.

Typical Kut post