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    Plinker

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    Arizona SB 1625: Assault Weapons; Magazines; Prohibition; Registration

    This is Arizona, but we need to be aware of what's going on around us (even if it's 1,700 miles away).

    Submitted Thursday 2 February, 2020.

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    I got through half the list of senators, all Dems. Go figure.

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    This Arizona Senate bill won't go anywhere. It's grandstanding by the state senators that sponsored it pandering to their constituencies. The Arizona House, Senate and Governor's Mansion are all Republican. It won't even make it out of sub-committee and will die there. Numerous bills pandering to constituencies with no hope of going anywhere are routinely introduced in every statehouse and in Congress. Most quietly die unless it's a hot-button issue and then it gets brief attention.

    One should study some how a bill actually becomes law. It's not a simple process and is time consuming. Gets assigned to a sub-committee. If approved there it moves to the committee of the whole. If not, it dies for that legislative session. If approved there, it goes to the chamber. If not, it dies. If the speaker of the house or president of the senate doesn't want it to get to the floor for debate and a floor vote, it will get pigeon-holed until the end of the session and it dies. No bill carries over from one session to the next. If it gets to floor vote and passes, it goes to the other chamber where the process starts all over again with just as many opportunities to die. More likely than not, there will be amendments in the other chamber if it gets to a floor vote and passes. That triggers a joint committee to attempt to hammer out a compromise between the chambers. Any such compromise must go back for another floor vote in each chamber. Only after that same exact identical bill passes both chambers down to identical punctuation does it go to the governor for signature. This is a gross simplification as there are times when it's even more complicated. Bottom line is bills don't sneak through in the dead of night as the process is much too deliberative and lengthy.

    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAL View Post
    This Arizona Senate bill won't go anywhere. It's grandstanding by the state senators that sponsored it pandering to their constituencies. The Arizona House, Senate and Governor's Mansion are all Republican. It won't even make it out of sub-committee and will die there. Numerous bills pandering to constituencies with no hope of going anywhere are routinely introduced in every statehouse and in Congress. Most quietly die unless it's a hot-button issue and then it gets brief attention.

    One should study some how a bill actually becomes law. It's not a simple process and is time consuming. Gets assigned to a sub-committee. If approved there it moves to the committee of the whole. If not, it dies for that legislative session. If approved there, it goes to the chamber. If not, it dies. If the speaker of the house or president of the senate doesn't want it to get to the floor for debate and a floor vote, it will get pigeon-holed until the end of the session and it dies. No bill carries over from one session to the next. If it gets to floor vote and passes, it goes to the other chamber where the process starts all over again with just as many opportunities to die. More likely than not, there will be amendments in the other chamber if it gets to a floor vote and passes. That triggers a joint committee to attempt to hammer out a compromise between the chambers. Any such compromise must go back for another floor vote in each chamber. Only after that same exact identical bill passes both chambers down to identical punctuation does it go to the governor for signature. This is a gross simplification as there are times when it's even more complicated. Bottom line is bills don't sneak through in the dead of night as the process is much too deliberative and lengthy.

    John
    I don't know... it seems pretty simple...


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    There are two "Americas".

    One that believes in Liberty.

    Another that does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAL View Post
    This Arizona Senate bill won't go anywhere. It's grandstanding by the state senators that sponsored it pandering to their constituencies. The Arizona House, Senate and Governor's Mansion are all Republican. It won't even make it out of sub-committee and will die there. Numerous bills pandering to constituencies with no hope of going anywhere are routinely introduced in every statehouse and in Congress. Most quietly die unless it's a hot-button issue and then it gets brief attention.

    One should study some how a bill actually becomes law. It's not a simple process and is time consuming. Gets assigned to a sub-committee. If approved there it moves to the committee of the whole. If not, it dies for that legislative session. If approved there, it goes to the chamber. If not, it dies. If the speaker of the house or president of the senate doesn't want it to get to the floor for debate and a floor vote, it will get pigeon-holed until the end of the session and it dies. No bill carries over from one session to the next. If it gets to floor vote and passes, it goes to the other chamber where the process starts all over again with just as many opportunities to die. More likely than not, there will be amendments in the other chamber if it gets to a floor vote and passes. That triggers a joint committee to attempt to hammer out a compromise between the chambers. Any such compromise must go back for another floor vote in each chamber. Only after that same exact identical bill passes both chambers down to identical punctuation does it go to the governor for signature. This is a gross simplification as there are times when it's even more complicated. Bottom line is bills don't sneak through in the dead of night as the process is much too deliberative and lengthy.

    John

    IMHO it is lazy thinking like this that will doom the protection of our 2nd amendment, then all other parts of the constitution.

    the DEMS and other anti-gunners WILL go through the process and the mess to destroy us. We must not waiver in our ultimatums, then they are just threats in words only.

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