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  • Wolfhound

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    That is great. Seems like a great idea and I back it 100%. I lived in Alabama and actually held a LTC in both Alabama and Indiana while I was in the service. I found Indiana to be a little more gun friendly than Alabama back in the 90's.
     

    HKUSP

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    I'm left with a couple of questions. First, do we call the AG or our legislative reps? Some states handle things like this with agreements like reciprocity.

    Secondly, is this just another thing Indiana will ignore like Constitutional Carry because the leadership is comfortable with their status quo and certain in their broad majority?
    Politicians tend to get lazy when there's no real competition.
     

    HoughMade

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    States can refuse to enforce federal law or assist the feds in enforcing federal law.

    Full stop.

    Any state law or groups of states with laws, that proposes to tell the feds what they can or cannot do within a state is complete and utter nonsense.
     

    HoughMade

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    U.S. Constitution-

    Article I

    Section 10

    Paragraph 3:

    3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

    Is this going to be one of those things where we decide which parts of the Constitution we like and which parts we don't like?
     

    BigRed

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    U.S. Constitution-

    Article I

    Section 10

    Paragraph 3:



    Is this going to be one of those things where we decide which parts of the Constitution we like and which parts we don't like?


    A State asserting its sovereignty and walking away on its own does not require a pact with another State. Following the walking away, the Constitution does not apply.
     

    HoughMade

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    I will agree that the states retain the sovereignty they did not willingly relinquish when joining the United States....but they gave up a whole heck of a lot of sovereignty.
     

    HoughMade

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    What one delegates to another, one can withdraw from that other.

    Secede!!!

    Well, they willingly joined a Union with a clearly defined manner of adding states, and no provision for them to leave.

    That tells me that there is no legal way to leave the Union and the only way out is by agreement or rebellion. History backs me up on this.
     

    BigRed

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    The document is silent to the matter. Thus, no provision is needed. The Tenth, and even the Ninth, say as much.

    That son of a ***** Lincoln might back you up on it.

    Jefferson certainly would not. The Declaration of Independence would not. Natural law would not.

    Secede!
     

    HKUSP

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    Honestly, I didn't have much of a legal opinion when I posted this. I was however interested in seeing a few. So basically if Indiana decided to do this all on It's own that's just spiffy. If it agrees to do this in cooperation with other states that's a revolt? Is that what I'm reading?
     

    HoughMade

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    Honestly, I didn't have much of a legal opinion when I posted this. I was however interested in seeing a few. So basically if Indiana decided to do this all on It's own that's just spiffy. If it agrees to do this in cooperation with other states that's a revolt? Is that what I'm reading?

    Three separate issues.

    1) States do not have to assist the feds in enforcing federal law.

    2) No state can legally prevent the feds from enforcing federal laws in the state. Period. End of discussion. (this is a big part of the OP video...and illegal)

    3) States cannot enter into "compacts" with other states for any reason unless Congress approves. However, if the Justice Dept. ignores compacts, then, though illegal, until someone makes a stink, they can operate.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Three separate issues.

    1) States do not have to assist the feds in enforcing federal law.

    2) No state can legally prevent the feds from enforcing federal laws in the state. Period. End of discussion. (this is a big part of the OP video...and illegal)

    3) States cannot enter into "compacts" with other states for any reason unless Congress approves. However, if the Justice Dept. ignores compacts, then, though illegal, until someone makes a stink, they can operate.

    Sorry for the thread jack, but how does this apply to the states that are entering into "compacts" to effectively eliminate the Electoral College (or at least radically change how the electoral votes are assigned)? Legal, or illegal? On the surface it seems similar, but maybe I'm missing something.
     

    HoughMade

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    Sorry for the thread jack, but how does this apply to the states that are entering into "compacts" to effectively eliminate the Electoral College (or at least radically change how the electoral votes are assigned)? Legal, or illegal? On the surface it seems similar, but maybe I'm missing something.

    Can't do it without Congressional approval...or the federal government ignores it.
     
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