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  • Bung

    Marksman
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    2   0   0
    Sep 11, 2012
    253
    18
    Anderson
    I had just went in to browse but ended up wanting to buy a new handgun. I was in there for a good 15 minutes browsing when I went to the counter to ask about handling some of the guns. He asked what I was looking for, I told him, and he selected some guns for me to look at. When he came back he asked me if 'that is secure' nodding towards the LC9 I open carry. I told him it was loaded and he told me that I needed to unload it. I asked, 'You want me to handle a loaded firearm?', he said yes or that he could do it for me. I told him I would do it, but it just seemed safer not to coon-finger a loaded gun without good reason. Against my better judgement I unloaded the gun and placed it on the counter. He took the loaded mag and the spare round and put them on the counter behind him, as if I would just load a gun and shoot him. I wasn't happy about this, but I wanted to look at those guns on the counter. I picked though the guns and decided I liked the FN 9mm and said I would buy that and a holster for it. He got the paperwork and I started filling it out. By now, there are two LEO's in the store, one is standing next to him behind the counter. He didn't ask either of them to 'disarm' when they came in. While filling out the paperwork I told him it was odd that I was asked to disarm, that I had never been asked to do that in a gun store before. He replied (and was echoed by the LEO) that all the gun stores he knew of asked you to disarm. I didn't mention that of the 5 gun stores in Anderson, I had never been asked to disarm or if the gun was even loaded. So I keep filling out the paperwork (still willing to buy the gun but not willing to ever come back to this store) and thought to ask him something else. I said, "Are you taking responsibility for my safety while I'm in here?" Now, I asked this is in the most even and non-smart-ass tone I could muster because it was a question I really wanted an answer too and not meant to bait him or start an argument. His demeanor changed instantly, his tone got deeper and his voice got louder. He said something along the lines of, "If you don't like it, you can go. You don't have to buy a gun here and the disarm is non-negotiable". He still didn't answer my question so I mentioned how there are people now talking about suing businesses that post no-gun sign's and then people get hurt or robbed while in those places and just wanted to be certain he was willing to protect me should the need arise. He was still upset and still short of yelling when he said, "I"m not a lawyer so I don't know how to answer that question. I don't know what you know (meaning he doesn't know my intentions) so that is why I disarm people. There are two police officers in here (not when he disarmed me) so you don't have anything to worry about." Never mind that is the basis for gun-control and he is perfectly willing to sell me a gun and let me leave with it. Never mind that he only took the gun he could see and had no idea if I was carrying concealed. Never mind that the Supreme Court ruled that officers have no duty to protect you. Never mind that the store is full of ammo that I could have put in my pocket or that if I had intended to harm him, I would have done it the first time he turned his back to me before he disarmed me, or that I would have even had the weapon openly displayed.

    Well, needless to say that I won't go there again. I thought I would share my experience here. I see on Google Reviews that the place isn't that popular and gets similar comments.

    EDIT: I did not buy the gun. I'll see if Gunslingers in Anderson has it. They have always been nice to me and spend the time needed to find what I'm looking for. They don't even push 'in-stock' sales on me. If what I want isn't in stock, they have no problem ordering it. I wish that had that range done.
     
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    churchmouse

    I still care....Really
    Emeritus
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    187   0   0
    Dec 7, 2011
    191,809
    152
    Speedway area
    You do not have to deal with a smart-A$$.
    I would have left when he asked me to un-load and definitely when he took the mag.
    Did you buy the gun....:dunno:
     

    Darral27

    Shooter
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    27   0   0
    Aug 13, 2011
    1,455
    38
    Elwood
    I'm hoping you ripped up your paperwork and left without buying anything. It's been discussed before and mainly those signs are for insurance purposes. The guy should not be selling you a gun if he is scared of you having a gun.
     

    RoosterJC

    Plinker
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    0   0   0
    Feb 1, 2013
    67
    8
    Carmel, IN
    This is the closest store to my home. I've been there once and I won't go back.
    There seems to be an attitude of "I know it, you don't"
     

    223 Gunner

    Master
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    199   0   0
    Jan 7, 2009
    4,411
    47
    Red Sector A
    I live nowhere close to it, but if I'm up that way, now I know what to expect should I go in.
    To the OP, too bad you had that experience. If I were in business I would be trying to win every customer that I could, not run them off.
     

    rockhopper46038

    Grandmaster
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    89   0   0
    May 4, 2010
    6,742
    48
    Fishers
    OP, thank you for providing the information. Regardless of what I would or wouldn't have done in your situation (and I already posted, above), I do appreciate you letting us know about your experience.
     

    eric001

    Vaguely well-known member
    Rating - 100%
    9   0   0
    Apr 3, 2011
    1,860
    149
    Indianapolis
    Interestingly, I've never been asked to disarm in a gunshop either. Nor would I do so. I'm not putting myself in a situation to win stupid prizes because of their stupid games.

    The thought just occurred though... I wonder what would happen in the OP's situation if he'd have pulled out a pre-written form stating the business assumes all responsibility in providing for customer safety and assumes any and all liability for not doing so...and handing him a pen to sign it with? I mean, if the d'bag behind the counter is going to become responsible for the safety of all within the business, he shouldn't mind putting his signature on a document stating as much, now should he??
     

    BogWalker

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    6   0   0
    Jan 5, 2013
    6,305
    63
    I don't see how such shops manage to stay in business. Luckily, after trying multiple stores, I have found a gun shop that appreciates me and my money.
     

    Classic

    Master
    Rating - 0%
    0   1   0
    Aug 28, 2011
    3,420
    38
    Madison County
    Went there once and won't go back even though it is convenient. There is a certain kind of attitude there beyond the "GFZ" that I didn't like.
     

    Bung

    Marksman
    Rating - 100%
    2   0   0
    Sep 11, 2012
    253
    18
    Anderson
    I did not buy the gun. I found it $30 cheaper on Buds. I still haven't bought it as I prefer to support local. I'll go out to Gunslingers later to see if they have it.
     
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