M&P 15-22 vs. .22 AK47 help

[D ReedSniper]

Dear INGO, these are my current guns I am longing for. I would like both but can afford only one.

On either rifle, I would like to mount a scope along with still having the use of iron sights. On the M&P, I would like to remove the rear sight and mount an A2 carry handle with sight, if that is possible, along with a rail on top for a scope. On an AK, I have heard that most scope mounts say they will allow iron sights but cover them up, is that true? Also, would like to put a bipod on either selection, and maybe, just maybe, a vertical foregrip.

Which rifle would be easiest to add these mods and still maintain a clear sight picture with iron along with easy access to the charging handle?

 

[esrice]

Which rifle would be easiest to add these mods and still maintain a clear sight picture with iron along with easy access to the charging handle?

AR-- by FAR.

The fact that you're looking at .22 versions of these platforms further solidifies my opinion on the matter.

I would also recommend getting a flip-up rear sight to go along with your scope, rather than mounting a scope to a carry handle.

 

[JohnP82]

I too would have to say AR.

I like both and actually prefer the AK over the AR platform. But for .22lr I like the options for the AR better. I haven't been very impressed with any of the AK .22s I have seen. I think you would be pleased with the m&p15 - 22 that you mentioned.

 

[x10]

AR-- by FAR.

The fact that you're looking at .22 versions of these platforms further solidifies my opinion on the matter.

I would also recommend getting a flip-up rear sight to go along with your scope, rather than mounting a scope to a carry handle.

exactly this,

 

[D ReedSniper]

I too would have to say AR.

I like both and actually prefer the AK over the AR platform. But for .22lr I like the options for the AR better. I haven't been very impressed with any of the AK .22s I have seen. I think you would be pleased with the m&p15 - 22 that you mentioned.

For performance, the AR would be better. But I am comparing it to a .22 AK I had earlier this year which I sold. The AK can handle much more dirt and crap compared to the AR right? The AK I had, I didn't clean it for the first few weeks of owning and it fired flawlessly.

 

[Clay]

I would also go AR.

The .22 AKs out there are really lacking IMO.

NOW, ask me this question again in 6 months, and I might have a different answer if some of the vendors out there get their approval to bring in a Saiga/Izhmash .22 AK

 

[teddy12b]

I'm also considering an M&P15-22, but that's mostly so I can put a slide fire stock on it. It's not going to happen any time soon for me, but when it does, it'll be awesome.

 

[jason conley]

I had a .22 ak, notice I said had, it was a real piece of s@#$. M&P is too light for me would rather have a normal AR in .22 but they are good guns, come with barrel threaded for suppressor and are very good reliable guns.

 

[esrice]

I'm also considering an M&P15-22, but that's mostly so I can put a slide fire stock on it.

Does the .22 generate enough recoil to "bumpfire" the stock?

 

[3point5]

Does the .22 generate enough recoil to "bumpfire" the stock?

I wouldnt think so, but I would love to know the answer to this, with a video showing it....where could I find something like that??


OH!!! off to the land of youtube.

EDIT: Youtube land says YES YOU CAN

 

[jeepville]

I couldn't get my ar with a 22 conversion in it to bump fire using the slide fire. Would love to know how would be cheaper. I heard someone mention a dedicated upper could do it but don't have any proof or see how hat would help.

 

[teddy12b]

I hope this answers a lot of questions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEYVP8XEAo

This is pure awesomeness. All it needs is a speed loader for the mags!

 

[WebSnyper]

AR-- by FAR.

The fact that you're looking at .22 versions of these platforms further solidifies my opinion on the matter.

I would also recommend getting a flip-up rear sight to go along with your scope, rather than mounting a scope to a carry handle.

I'd agree with this. Actually, just pick up the 15-22 MOE version and the flip up front and rears come with it, and you get the added benefit of the MOE grip and the MOE stock, along with a rear QD mount integrated into the receiver.

I can't see mounting a carry handle on the 15-22, but that's me.

I picked up the MOE and added a Primary Arms M3 red dot with a cantilever mount for lower 1/3 co-witness with the MagPul BUS.

 

[WebSnyper]

Does the .22 generate enough recoil to "bumpfire" the stock?

I've heard that this is a YMMV thing, with some people saying it works and others indicating issues.

 

[jedi]

I hope this answers a lot of questions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEYVP8XEAo

This is pure awesomeness. All it needs is a speed loader for the mags!

WOW!!!!

 

[JohnP82]

pretty cool video, but I would recommend some eye protection.

 

[42769vette]

AR-- by FAR.

The fact that you're looking at .22 versions of these platforms further solidifies my opinion on the matter.

I would also recommend getting a flip-up rear sight to go along with your scope, rather than mounting a scope to a carry handle.

exactly. i have a 1-4 pst on my mp 15-22. it has a 1-4 vortex pst. if i wanted i could use the irons on 1x but i dont see the need

 

[U.S. Patriot]

I went with the 15-22.

 

[D ReedSniper]

Both have their unique set of "cool" factors, in my opinion. I like the AR because of the modern look along with a vast array of customizations available. And the AK is seen as a symbol of badassery and, terrorism... But it is still a nice rifle. I've held both, but prices are my main concern. I also want to help out my local gun shop, but if I order a rifle online and pay transfer fees, it is still much cheaper than buying from the store and paying sales taxes.

 

[Shoots4Fun]

I've heard and read that you need to but a modified trigger set in the dedicated 22-AR's to make the slide fire work.

I don't have first hand experience but I'd be interested to know.

Edited: watched the video and he admitted he changed the trigger group as well. Probably a good "investment" considering the cost of going full auto is very prohibitive for me, but this would be pretty darn cool and fun.