.22 TCM Rock Island Bolt-Action Rifle

[Kirk Freeman]

Rock Island releases the M22, a .22 TCM bolt-action rifle.

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Review: Rock Island Arsenal M22 TCM BA - The .22 TCM Chambered Bolt Action Rifle - The Firearm Blog

 

[ChalupaCabras]

This could be the one way that the 22TCM takes a real world advantage over the 5.7 - by providing a legitimate cost effective long gun.

Th only long gun options for the 5.7 are a PS90 ($1,400) or a AR 5.7 build ($700 for the upper + $200 for a complete lower = $900 rifle): Both of which are priced out of most peoples hands. FN promised us a 5.7 bolt gun years ago, and it never happened... Savage keeps promising us a Model 25 in 5.7 but it has yet to actually happen... 'Excel Arms' supposedly has a 5.7 rifle that takes proprietary mags but it is basically vaporware and I don't even recall even seeing a sponsored review.

If RIA can bring a decent carbine to market for $400 - especially a variant with some rudimentary irons - I think they will have a winner on their hands.

 

[Hookeye]

Saw one a few months ago. Guy shot it a few times and sold it.
Gun was a little on the rough side. Never did get accuracy report.

I'll take a better built .22 mag or .222 or heaven forbid, an AR.

Think this rifle for the folks who think a handgun/rifle combo is cool.
I never bought into that concept.
Bet the orig owner of the TCM rifle was a past subscriber of such.

 

[RustyHornet]

I had a TCM pistol, what a hoot! Very fun to shoot, no recoil and FIRE! Sold it because it was just a plinker for me and I couldn't justify keeping it around for the cost of ammo, which they go through quick. He who will not own an island gun bought it, then it proceeded to disassemble itself while he was shooting it.....

 

[churchmouse]

I had a TCM pistol, what a hoot! Very fun to shoot, no recoil and FIRE! Sold it because it was just a plinker for me and I couldn't justify keeping it around for the cost of ammo, which they go through quick. He who will not own an island gun bought it, then it proceeded to disassemble itself while he was shooting it.....

Had to bring that up again didn't you........

The gun is a freaking hoot to shoot. I love the fireball. No recoil to speak of save the slide hitting the stop.

 

[RustyHornet]

Had to bring that up again didn't you........

The gun is a freaking hoot to shoot. I love the fireball. No recoil to speak of save the slide hitting the stop.

I feel bad about it coming apart on you, but feel I made the impossible happen with getting you to buy an island gun and enjoying it.

 

[churchmouse]

I feel bad about it coming apart on you, but feel I made the impossible happen with getting you to buy an island gun and enjoying it.

Seems to have been a year for the impossible.
Between you and BA I now own an island gun......and several 9mm pistols and a carbine. Must be slipping in my old age.

 

[snorko]

A changeable barrel in 9mm would be a double plus hoot.

 

[RustyHornet]

Seems to have been a year for the impossible.
Between you and BA I now own an island gun......and several 9mm pistols and a carbine. Must be slipping in my old age.

Some friends you have......

Variety is the spice of life!

 

[KG1]

Seems to have been a year for the impossible.
Between you and BA I now own an island gun......and several 9mm pistols and a carbine. Must be slipping in my old age.

When one gets older it becomes easier to be tricked into doing things that one would not normally think of. Or so I've heard.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

A changeable barrel in 9mm would be a double plus hoot.

I agree, additional interchangeable barrels in 9mm Luger or .38 Super would be a lot of fun. Plus, since the barrels would come off easily, you could send one of them off for an integral suppressor job.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I agree, additional interchangeable barrels in 9mm Luger or .38 Super would be a lot of fun. Plus, since the barrels would come off easily, you could send one of them off for an integral suppressor job.

Ammo, if one did that, wouldn't one be constricted as to the number of calibers because of the bolt face/head?

 

[bobjones223]

A changeable barrel in 9mm would be a double plus hoot.

I got one of those....

 

[bobjones223]

Had to bring that up again didn't you........

The gun is a freaking hoot to shoot. I love the fireball. No recoil to speak of save the slide hitting the stop.

Ohhh I see how it is. Giving RustyHornet a hard time for bringing it up but you have NO PROBLEM telling a complete stranger about it while standing in a parking lot.

P.S. going out to shoot it tonight. Let you know my impression tomorrow.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

Ammo, if one did that, wouldn't one be constricted as to the number of calibers because of the bolt face/head?

It depends on how the bolt face and/or extractor are designed, sometimes you can go from 9mm Luger to .38 Super without a new bolt. The semi-rim on the .38 Super isn't that much bigger and most bolt faces actually have enough clearance for it, for me the more troublesome aspect is that the depth of the extractor groove is not as deep in .38 Super; the extractor bottoms out hard against the bottom of the groove and won't allow the case head to slide on up the bolt face. The ideal way to engineer around this is to have an extractor that doesn't engage as deeply, but engages around a relatively large area of the rim (gives positive extraction while being flexible in regards to minor variations in extractor groove depth and rim diameter). If quick change barrels are possible with this design, a few minor tweaks to the bolt face and extractor would make it possible to do AT LEAST the following calibers with single stack 1911 mags:
.22 TCM
.30 Luger
9mm Luger
.38 Super

I'll think more on this after lunch, there may be other possibilities. 7.62x25 Tokarev is too long and would create mag or magwell issues. From working on Uzi carbines, .40 S&W might be a possibility even with a 9mm bolt face (again, depending on clearance inherent in the design).

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It depends on how the bolt face and/or extractor are designed, sometimes you can go from 9mm Luger to .38 Super without a new bolt.

Interesting. Got to take another gunsmithing class in 2016!

 

[RustyHornet]

Ohhh I see how it is. Giving RustyHornet a hard time for bringing it up but you have NO PROBLEM telling a complete stranger about it while standing in a parking lot.

P.S. going out to shoot it tonight. Let you know my impression tomorrow.

Double standard! Freakin mods.....

 

[indiucky]

Interesting. Got to take another gunsmithing class in 2016!

Yes sir...They have updated some things since your last one...

To be a gunsmith at Colonial Williamsburg has to be one of the greatest jobs in these United States....

 

[varkman]

Yes sir...They have updated some things since your last one...

To be a gunsmith at Colonial Williamsburg has to be one of the greatest jobs in these United States....

Wonder if these guys could work up a copy of a Nock Volley gun?