Hello InGun guys (and Ladys)
I'm from out the western states. I hope it's not breaking etiguette to be posting on your forum... Good forum though so I wanted to ask you all for some advice.
So I'm looking to get into AR's. I've only ever had bolt action hunting rifles and pistols (highly recommend Berretta PX4 storm BTW). , Really haven't done much hunting or gun collecting since being a kid.
So I'm doing a lot of research into AR's and finding what you all probably already know. It seems that there are just a lot of brands doing a lot of the same things and without a lot of differentiation in the market it seems. But with some good advice from friends etc. I'm identifying some good brands that may stand out in warranty, quality of build/fit/finish, even though their product seems to be very similar to many others in the market.
I
'm not looking to get into shooting competitions or anything. I just want a couple guns (I'll be purchasing 2) for bug out guns and that I can use for hunting. Otherwise they're really just for me to enjoy playing around with.
I' trying to stay with lower end entry models, focused on reliability, durability, and shootability but I keep getting sucked into this irrational need to own the cool looking AR behind the counter that costs 300.00 more than I really should be spending.... I'm really looking for guns from 600 up to maybe 750 but have found 3 or 4 that my irrational brain keeps trying justifications for me to buy.....
So, one of those cool looking AR's that I found is by Seekins Precision. SS barrel, .223 wylde, really good reviews generally, seems to be a shooters gun with great specs etc. etc. etc.
I was really surprised when I called them though and found that they don't do any MPI or HPT testing on their barrels or bolts. The bolt manufacturer that they source from does do MPI testing before shipping to Seekins but that's it. so all of the testing that Seekins does I assume are just for tolerances.....
I'd really like to punch my logical brain in the mouth and go buy one of these guns that I totally don't need, but the lack of MPI and HPT, especially for a 1300.00 gun, focused on precision shooting really bugs me.
Wanted to ask everyone what they thought about it? Should I just not be worrying so much about it?
Otherwise....
Here are the other guns I'm looking at (in rough order of what I'm kind of leaning toward purchasing [either instead of the Seekins or in addition to it])... would love to get feedback and suggestions or advice on these choices or others that you may feel are better values or better guns overall.
I'm looking for a good shooting basic gun for best price/value. Don't really care about brands but I will pay for better components, accuracy, and durability. I like the idea of a better trigger system, being able to mount a flash light on the hand guard, and would heavily prefer a mid mount gas system. Because I want to do some hunting with it, I'd prefer a 1.8 or maybe even a 1.7 twist.
Spikes Tactical mid length - (Specifically because of the review I read on this forum for the carbine version of this gun by Esrice and Lovemywoods..)
Springfield Saint - seems to be a intersting gun with lots of core value upgrades but I'm really concerned that it is a new gun and really hasn't been field tested heavily by the public yet.....
Windham Weaponry MPC - Not sure how good of a value or build these are. I see a lot of statements where they say "we're the original bushmaster gang and we know how to build guns" but I haven't found a lot of specs or details about why their guns should be especially good compared to others for the price.
S&W M&P Sport - seems to be the gold standard for entry level guns. by all accounts a really functional and reliable design.
Ruger 556 - an alternate to the S&W, that I probably prefer over the sport. Seems there is a high confidence in this model too, and it sure seems to feel more ergonomic and with a better trigger than the S&W, at least as it seemed to me in the store.
I'm from out the western states. I hope it's not breaking etiguette to be posting on your forum... Good forum though so I wanted to ask you all for some advice.
So I'm looking to get into AR's. I've only ever had bolt action hunting rifles and pistols (highly recommend Berretta PX4 storm BTW). , Really haven't done much hunting or gun collecting since being a kid.
So I'm doing a lot of research into AR's and finding what you all probably already know. It seems that there are just a lot of brands doing a lot of the same things and without a lot of differentiation in the market it seems. But with some good advice from friends etc. I'm identifying some good brands that may stand out in warranty, quality of build/fit/finish, even though their product seems to be very similar to many others in the market.
I
'm not looking to get into shooting competitions or anything. I just want a couple guns (I'll be purchasing 2) for bug out guns and that I can use for hunting. Otherwise they're really just for me to enjoy playing around with.
I' trying to stay with lower end entry models, focused on reliability, durability, and shootability but I keep getting sucked into this irrational need to own the cool looking AR behind the counter that costs 300.00 more than I really should be spending.... I'm really looking for guns from 600 up to maybe 750 but have found 3 or 4 that my irrational brain keeps trying justifications for me to buy.....
So, one of those cool looking AR's that I found is by Seekins Precision. SS barrel, .223 wylde, really good reviews generally, seems to be a shooters gun with great specs etc. etc. etc.
I was really surprised when I called them though and found that they don't do any MPI or HPT testing on their barrels or bolts. The bolt manufacturer that they source from does do MPI testing before shipping to Seekins but that's it. so all of the testing that Seekins does I assume are just for tolerances.....
I'd really like to punch my logical brain in the mouth and go buy one of these guns that I totally don't need, but the lack of MPI and HPT, especially for a 1300.00 gun, focused on precision shooting really bugs me.
Wanted to ask everyone what they thought about it? Should I just not be worrying so much about it?
Otherwise....
Here are the other guns I'm looking at (in rough order of what I'm kind of leaning toward purchasing [either instead of the Seekins or in addition to it])... would love to get feedback and suggestions or advice on these choices or others that you may feel are better values or better guns overall.
I'm looking for a good shooting basic gun for best price/value. Don't really care about brands but I will pay for better components, accuracy, and durability. I like the idea of a better trigger system, being able to mount a flash light on the hand guard, and would heavily prefer a mid mount gas system. Because I want to do some hunting with it, I'd prefer a 1.8 or maybe even a 1.7 twist.
Spikes Tactical mid length - (Specifically because of the review I read on this forum for the carbine version of this gun by Esrice and Lovemywoods..)
Springfield Saint - seems to be a intersting gun with lots of core value upgrades but I'm really concerned that it is a new gun and really hasn't been field tested heavily by the public yet.....
Windham Weaponry MPC - Not sure how good of a value or build these are. I see a lot of statements where they say "we're the original bushmaster gang and we know how to build guns" but I haven't found a lot of specs or details about why their guns should be especially good compared to others for the price.
S&W M&P Sport - seems to be the gold standard for entry level guns. by all accounts a really functional and reliable design.
Ruger 556 - an alternate to the S&W, that I probably prefer over the sport. Seems there is a high confidence in this model too, and it sure seems to feel more ergonomic and with a better trigger than the S&W, at least as it seemed to me in the store.