I am new to bolt guns and would like to buy an entry level .243 win. I have heard good things about the accuracy of the Savage 11/111. The Savage comes with a Nikon 3x9 scope. I have no first hand experience with Savage though. The Ruger American comes with a Vortex 3x9. I have read a lot of really good things about the Vortex warranty and customer service. I haven't been able to find as much info about the Ruger American rifle. I have owned other Rugers and have been extremely pleased the one time I did deal with their customer service. The regular price of both is pretty close right now from what I have seen. Savage does have a $50 dollar rebate which would be nice but I still wouldn't buy for that reason alone. Any other brand recommendations would be appreciated as well. I would like to stay below $600 for this rifle. The Savage and Ruger are both around $490 before rebate. I plan to use the rifle mostly for target shooting but may hunt deer someday if that is a consideration.