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    Expert amboy49's Avatar

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    I need AR schooled

    Havenít shot or owned an AR rifle since 1970. Was government issued.

    Iím considering a TX hog hunt this year and thinking about getting an AR. Donít know a damn thing about different makes/models. I see prices all over the board. I donít want or need a 1,000 Camp Perry tack driver. Maybe a 300 yd gun at best. Want reliability and decent accuracy. Where is the best resource to learn about variations and fair market prices ?

    Thanks in advance

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    Having been where you are just a few years ago when I embarked on my own journey of AR-discovery, I wish you well on your path to enlightenment.

    First, this forum is a great reference, especially on the anecdotal stuff, or just general insight.

    Second, my own story involves 2 ARs: a very high quality LMT and a budget version built on an Anderson lower. The LMT is exceptional (now SBR'd) and should be for the price. The Anderson, though, is the one that has taken hogs and deer (in east Texas). (In fairness to the LMT, I've only used it for hunting a couple times and don't even take it any more because of other rifles I've acquired.)

    Third, in my experience about 300 yds is probably further than I'd use a .223/5.56 for hunting. All of our shots have been inside 200 yds, and the majority around 100 yds. That's about the sweet spot for that round (again IMHO). Another note about that, we quickly moved up to the 75 or 77 gr bullets for hunting. I've been really impressed with them. The deer we've taken have run about 50 ft on average, then fallen. The hogs less than that.

    Nowadays, I'd budget $500-600 for a solid, budget-conscious AR for hunting and truck gun usage (not counting optic). If you can get 100 clean rounds through it with a scope that'll keep a zero, then I'd think it would suffice. If you have a longer timeline, you can watch for deals and get one closer to $400.
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    Expert Ggreen's Avatar

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    How much money do you want to spend?

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    I can offer you advise on a 1000 yard CAMP PERRY tack driver........that being said.....I can't offer you caliber advise, but for quality rock river arms is very hard to beat

    I personally would look at a 308 bolt gun
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    Where does a Smith and Wesson Sport II fall on the continuum? Low end, middle-of-the-road, junk?

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    Expert Ggreen's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdybdall View Post
    Where does a Smith and Wesson Sport II fall on the continuum? Low end, middle-of-the-road, junk?
    Junk end. I'd take another bear creek over a mp sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdybdall View Post
    Where does a Smith and Wesson Sport II fall on the continuum? Low end, middle-of-the-road, junk?
    Entry level. I have had a couple. They ran OK I guess but will avoid in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggreen View Post
    Junk end. I'd take another bear creek over a mp sport
    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Entry level. I have had a couple. They ran OK I guess but will avoid in future.
    Reasons? Don't know much about them so I'm curious.
    Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Proverbs 18:2

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    Stop in and see Zach at ZR Tactical in Noblesville. He'll talk it out with you so it makes sense and point you in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffnek View Post
    Reasons? Don't know much about them so I'm curious.
    They are a bit funky. The lowers are cheaply made, the barrels are inconsistent, the furniture is rattly... they had some major qc issues with their cheap mim lpk's. Would a first time user notice, probably not. It is no joke that my 300 dollar bca was/is a nicer gun.

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