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    Expert tmschuller's Avatar

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    Trying to figure out if ak I bought is pre ban

    I bought several guns and one them is a pristine ak47. Looks like not many if any rounds have been through it.. all the guns have been stored for over a decade and I am trying find my way thru these.. how do I decipher the numbers and stamped marks? I looked on line but not sure. Had a opinion or two but I figured here was the place to get information Thanks.

    Last edited by tmschuller; 01-14-2020 at 18:37.

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    Looks like a Norinco 56S. Hard to tell from the picture but it looks to have a bayonet lug on the gas block, but those can be retrofitted.

    The markings should tell you and having 56S on the front trunion or on the receiver above the pistol grip area will tell you. If marked MAK-90 it is a post-Bush1-ban.


    Edit to add, some of the early pre-bans were marked AK-47S.

    Edited to add, thanks for the extra photo verifying it is a 56S.
    Last edited by indykid; 01-30-2020 at 21:08.

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    Sile, NY 56S rifles tended to be earlier imports. Great guns. Your photos aren't very clear but I'd wager you've got a mid-80s AK there, so yeah - pre-ban. Nice blued bolt as well!

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    tm, video from SAS that you may find informative=>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZpZ3r2A_k
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    Quote Originally Posted by IUKalash429 View Post
    Sile, NY 56S rifles tended to be earlier imports. Great guns. Your photos aren't very clear but I'd wager you've got a mid-80s AK there, so yeah - pre-ban. Nice blued bolt as well!
    Sile was big in the 70's and 80's and was a big police distributor in NY. Pretty much guaranteed that's a pre-ban. Here's an old link to a Sile marked AK underfolder at auction.

    https://www.gunauction.com/buy/9666535

    Here's a recent one on GB that sold for 2300.00 but had different markings:

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/847327817 and there was another one with even different markings for around 1600.00.
    Last edited by drillsgt; 01-15-2020 at 09:52.

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    Enlarge the first picture. Right above the word "Semi' it says 56S. So, jackpot !!
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    I have a couple of sks's that I am getting pics of. A Russian had another norinco. They both have cosmoline in them and looks like there is no wear on the norinco
    My son is stoked there was a beat up mosin that he wants to build up.. I bought these off a friend that was a veteran that had owned a gun shop.

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    Grandmaster indykid's Avatar

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    Thanks for the extra photo. Yep, a very nice to own pre-Bush1-ban! Congrats!!!

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    Expert tmschuller's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    tm, video from SAS that you may find informative=>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZpZ3r2A_k
    Thanks Kirk!

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    Looks like a pre ban to me.
    Very nice AK

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