Arasaka info needed

[Jozenbau]

What I have here is what I’ve learned through my research an early type 99 short rifle Japanese arasaka. Takes 7.7x58 round. I am told that having the chrysanthemum on it is rare. Missing is bayonet, dust cover, bipod, and cleaning rod. Any knowledge on these firearms is greatly appreciated. I’m trying to find a value for it as well.

 

[Mongo59]

The slash through the chrysanthemum is a simple form of defacing and it would not be considered an 'intact' chrysanthemum.

All the info you need in on the left side of the receiver above the wood and below the bolt. All those marks mean something. Take a pic of them and post it and I can translate it for you.

'Early' is a relative term in Arasaka language. Know that none of these rifles have a serial number >99,999 as they run in series and reset to the next series before hitting the 6th digit.

 

[Mgderf]

Value will depend on a few things, like manufacture date, factory of manufacture, bore condition...
It looks to me like you are also missing one side of the anti-aircraft sights.

As stated above, you do not have an "intact mum".
The line through it is known as it being "struck", which is a form of defacement.

Judging by the pics, and without further information, I would estimate between $250- $350.
Your wood is in pretty bad shape, even for an Arisaka.
Still, a nice rifle if the rifling is in good shape.

Good luck finding 7.7x58 ammo for a decent price.
If you reload, you might try finding a set of used dies. I found a set several years ago for $15.

 

[Jozenbau]

Value will depend on a few things, like manufacture date, factory of manufacture, bore condition...
It looks to me like you are also missing one side of the anti-aircraft sights.

As stated above, you do not have an "intact mum".
The line through it is known as it being "struck", which is a form of defacement.

Judging by the pics, and without further information, I would estimate between $250- $350.
Your wood is in pretty bad shape, even for an Arisaka.
Still, a nice rifle if the rifling is in good shape.

Good luck finding 7.7x58 ammo for a decent price.
If you reload, you might try finding a set of used dies. I found a set several years ago for $15.

Oh no, the other side of the sight is there. Thank you for the information.

 

[Jozenbau]

The slash through the chrysanthemum is a simple form of defacing and it would not be considered an 'intact' chrysanthemum.

All the info you need in on the left side of the receiver above the wood and below the bolt. All those marks mean something. Take a pic of them and post it and I can translate it for you.

'Early' is a relative term in Arasaka language. Know that none of these rifles have a serial number >99,999 as they run in series and reset to the next series before hitting the 6th digit.

I didn’t see any other markings but I will look again and post my findings. Thanks for the input.

 

[Jozenbau]

The slash through the chrysanthemum is a simple form of defacing and it would not be considered an 'intact' chrysanthemum.

All the info you need in on the left side of the receiver above the wood and below the bolt. All those marks mean something. Take a pic of them and post it and I can translate it for you.

'Early' is a relative term in Arasaka language. Know that none of these rifles have a serial number >99,999 as they run in series and reset to the next series before hitting the 6th digit.

Not sure how I missed these numbers the first time. . I came into a collection bout two weeks ago and still learning things about them. I have a few more long guns I know nothing about except for what little help I’ve gotten from FB.

 

[Mongo59]

What you have there is a series 4 serial number 92778 made at the Nagoya arsenal. They made approx 1,088,500 type 99's at that plant alone.

All together there were 2,497,000 type 99's made by all the plants from 1939-1945.

The series 4 from Nagoya would come with a dust cover (they were discontinued late in series 5) and the monopod (which was also discontinued in series 5) and the full 23.75 inch cleaning rod which was changed to a 4 7/8 inch rod in series 5.

The rifle you have is one of the last 'early configuration' rifles. With that being said it was also the most common, most produced Japanese rifle and is what everyone 'expects to see' when they pick one up off the table.

Pricing, I haven't bought any in a year or two. The prices are all over the place and some people are paying more for the 'last ditch' guns than a standard issue. A few years ago I would have told you that you had a $100-125 gun there. (I have bought nicer for less) Now, I would say you might be able to double that if you aren't in a hurry to find a buyer.

 

[crazygunner1]

The rifle looks aged, I bet that fires like a rocket. There is a thing I have for Chinese Arisaka, a lovely shooter no matter how aged it is.

 

[Jozenbau]

What you have there is a series 4 serial number 92778 made at the Nagoya arsenal. They made approx 1,088,500 type 99's at that plant alone.

All together there were 2,497,000 type 99's made by all the plants from 1939-1945.

The series 4 from Nagoya would come with a dust cover (they were discontinued late in series 5) and the monopod (which was also discontinued in series 5) and the full 23.75 inch cleaning rod which was changed to a 4 7/8 inch rod in series 5.

The rifle you have is one of the last 'early configuration' rifles. With that being said it was also the most common, most produced Japanese rifle and is what everyone 'expects to see' when they pick one up off the table.

Pricing, I haven't bought any in a year or two. The prices are all over the place and some people are paying more for the 'last ditch' guns than a standard issue. A few years ago I would have told you that you had a $100-125 gun there. (I have bought nicer for less) Now, I would say you might be able to double that if you aren't in a hurry to find a buyer.

Thanks for the info. That is definitely the most I have gotten from anyone. I will have to write that in my notes about it. I don’t really plan to get rid of it too soon. The barrel is dirty but you can still see the twist, I plan to clean it up and keep it for a while.

 

[Mongo59]

The barrel is chrome lined and will shine up like a new nickle. There are a lot of twists in there but it would be difficult to intentionally trash the barrel so disuse rarely causes a problem.

I would recommend 'Blue Wonder' gun cleaner on the bore, it will take away stuff from in there you didn't even know was there and will not hurt the finish.

 

[BGDave]

It also appears to have a mis-matched bolt or at least the extractor.

More important though, is resist the urge to sand the stock. The finish is made from some kind of sumac tree or bush. It can cause respiratory problems. The metal work should have been shellacked for rust prevention.

As it is a cock on closing and some folks hold the trigger back to releave mainspring pressure on Enfields and such. Don't do this on an Arisaka. It's always a happy time disassembling the bolt to get it out.