IWI toys!

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

http://enews.palmettostatearmory.com/q/13rU3YVGTUM0XHPkWqVl80YVo9hL8VVJwIYZcOJYmVhcnZlcmluZUBZQUhPTy5DT03DiAjigMo346cqALwxoowGLuamoktBQ

Anyone know anything about this? Counselor?

 

[MCgrease08]

[video=youtube_share;ghO9lE3Kjao]http://youtu.be/ghO9lE3Kjao[/video]

 

[SarahG]

[video=youtube_share;ghO9lE3Kjao]http://youtu.be/ghO9lE3Kjao[/video]

Seems like a nice basic AR. If it were me I would go for something like the Tavor X95 just for some variety!

 

[IUKalash429]

Looks like just another AR. But if it's even a quarter as nice as their Galil ACE, I'd say it's a quality piece.

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

I ordered one to review. Waiting for the shop to get it.

 

[Trigger Time]

Sends muslim terrorists straight to hell.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Anyone know anything about this? Counselor?

Yes, how can I help you?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Looks like just another AR. But if it's even a quarter as nice as their Galil ACE, I'd say it's a quality piece.

Not a toy. Solid stick. Not built so everyone will look at you at the range (where most marketing is focused). 1:8 twist is not my jam, but can make it work.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Not a toy. Solid stick. Not built so everyone will look at you at the range (where most marketing is focused). 1:8 twist is not my jam, but can make it work.

. Yes, how can I help you?

Well, you seem to be the expert on foreign military offerings, and IWI is close enough..... Just wondered what your take was. Personally, I'm a fan of God's twist.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I have shot and cleaned a Zion. BTW, not foreign, made in PA. Very well put together, it is not a toy/trash tier stick.

We are blessed to have a multitude of choices. IWI's Zion should be considered.

 

[kawtech87]

What materials are used for the bolt/bolt carrier? I'm assuming carpenter 158 if it's mil spec but it's not listed anywhere I've seen

 

[kawtech87]

Just found one review that says bolt is 9310 steel. I'm unfamiliar with this alloy for bolts.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Just found one review that says bolt is 9310 steel. I'm unfamiliar with this alloy for bolts.

Touch more C, Mn, P, S (very slight) and Si, same amount of Ni. Used in crankshafts and gears, high shock rate just like Carpenter 158.

Matt likes this (9310) more for bcgs and bolts. This is also the type that Chris Bartocci recommends in his custom builds as well. M4 bcg is 19K psi, but Zion miigates this with mid length.

My brother's and Bartocci's recommended bcg/bolt: https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...nexity&utm_campaign=itwine&utm_content=Social

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I look at it like this, I am an idiot.

People with degrees in stuff like Mechanical and Chemical Engineering, as well as the guy that took the AR-10 down to the AR-15 all say "Carpenter 158", cause, you know, it is hardened on the outside but can take the beating inside the upper.

Thus, I am cool with what the smart people, who have specific experience with exactly this system, say.

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

Shipping notice, shop gets it Friday, hopefully I can get in there and get it Sunday.

 

[kawtech87]

I look at it like this, I am an idiot.

People with degrees in stuff like Mechanical and Chemical Engineering, as well as the guy that took the AR-10 down to the AR-15 all say "Carpenter 158", cause, you know, it is hardened on the outside but can take the beating inside the upper.

Thus, I am cool with what the smart people, who have specific experience with exactly this system, say.

Thanks for the info. Been doing some reading on 9310 BCGs and the Z15 in general and although it seems like a fine rifle I decided to go with something a little more special and expensive for what will probably be my last AR purchase for the foreseeable future. Figured by the time I bought this and upgraded it to the way I'd want it I'd be better off buying one that already has everything I want. But it does seem like a nice entry level AR for anyone who wants to get into one at a good price.

 

[DadSmith]

I plan on buying one. Just for the name. Zion 15. That will get a lot of people angry lol.

Do they have a pistol version 10.5-11" barrel?

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

Picked mine up. It's solid. It feels very similar to the BCM Recce rifles. No rattle, fit well. I'll get it to the range once I get back from Texas.

 

[traderjoe]

Very interested in reading your review. It's at a good price point and has upgraded features.