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- Apr 23, 2008
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That is awesome! You should only need an upper right? Which isn't a firearm right?.......................
Correct. I have heard of some tinkerers doing this, but that looks like a production-worthy setup. Hell, even the bolt group looks custom! I would probably pass on the .410 setup but if I could get at least a 20ga to work, then I'd have to have one! Imagine for a minute a shotgun upper on my M16 lower...FULL OF WIN!!!!
I agree. The home defense capability is amazing. Now if I could just find where I put Rock River's number..................
Heck guys, WE could make that happen. We'd just need a mill to get the dimensioning done for the bolt and come up with a magazine setup that would work. Based upon that video they are using a standard upper with a custom barrel and it appears to be blowback operated. I just wouldn't personally go to the trouble for .410.
youd be waiting a year for anything directly from them
I would get one in .410. It would be an attention getter at the range.
Curiosity for the NFA guys: If we did this, could it be made legally in IN with a short barrel, or would that violate state law? Obviously, it would need a tax stamp as a SBS/SBR, but since it would be manufactured as a shotgun upper on an AR platform, I'm not sure if the law on "sawed-off" would apply or not.
Thoughts?
Blessings,
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If you started with a virgin lower reciever, or one that was registered as a pistol, you could build a .410 AR pistol. If you go this route there would be NO NFA tax or paperwork.
However, there might be a NFA rule on smoothbore pistols but I can't recall right now, I will try and do some research on that aspect later. To give you an example of what I am refering to, lets consider my Serbu. It is classified as an AOW because it is a smoothbore pistol. But IIRC, the NFA rules also mentions that it falls in the AOW class due to the caliber as well, as technically a 12ga is bigger than .50cal. So if you apply that silly NFA logic, you may very well be able to build a .410 AR pistol.
Let me do some research on it, as it poses an interesting question.
Now as far as my feelings on the .410 AR config in general, I will pass, if we could do a complete build up of an AR12 type gun, I AM IN. But that is A LOT of work and design time and not only will you need to design the gun you will also need to design magazines, and that is almost as difficult as designing the gun.