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    Marksman IndyMike2112's Avatar

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    10/20 Camp Atterbury POP UP shoot questions

    How many folks shoot iron sights out to 300 yards? I don't have any scopes of any kind for my AR yet. I wanted to get a lot more gun time with irons in before "advancing" to optics.

    I shot irons out to 200 at Bedford's AR event last year but I really don't know where I can shoot prone to practice so I don't know if I can hone my skills well enough to justify signing up.

    I am wanting to sign up for October and wondering if I should upgrade to a decent red dot before that. But I will still have the prone practice issue...

    Thoughts?
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    I believe the entire event is shot from a standing position.
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    AR Irons work at 1000yds

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyMike2112 View Post
    How many folks shoot iron sights out to 300 yards? I don't have any scopes of any kind for my AR yet. I wanted to get a lot more gun time with irons in before "advancing" to optics.

    I shot irons out to 200 at Bedford's AR event last year but I really don't know where I can shoot prone to practice so I don't know if I can hone my skills well enough to justify signing up.

    I am wanting to sign up for October and wondering if I should upgrade to a decent red dot before that. But I will still have the prone practice issue...

    Thoughts?
    Iron sights are plenty adequate for 1/2 sillohuete targets at 300yds. A good rifle with match ammo will group under 1MOA--3" @300yds. The only advantage of a RDS is speed.

    As far as practice goes, if you don't have access to a range were you can shoot a center-fire rifle prone (and at a meaningful distance), you can use dry-fire. Do you have a place where you can shoot a .22 prone? You can substitute that for live-fire. Not ideal, but substitutes usually aren't

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    From the event page:
    "You should be comfortable with quickly making hits on man-sized targets from 50 to 300 yards from the prone position (you may fire from any position, but given the pace of target presentation and the distances involved, most will shoot from prone). There will not be time between individual target presentations to “dial” your scope for the appropriate distance; you should be experienced making appropriate “hold overs”/”hold unders” as needed to compensate for the varying distances."

    I need lots of range time this summer no matter what!
    "Ramseur! 10-16!"

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    With a known zero (50/200 or 25/300) you should be on target at all ranges targets are presented regardless of sights.

    Magnification does make it somewhat easier on those of us who can't see past the end of our barrels.

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    Iron sights are fine I qualified for many years with them before RDS.
    The normal course of fire is.

    20 rounds prone supported

    10 rounds prone unsupported

    10 rounds kneeling

    Ensure your rear sight is in the correct position A2 sights +1 click from 8/3 for zeroing 8/3 flush for qualifying Use the small aperture.

    Most new shooters have a problem with transitions from one target to another.
    When presented with two targets engage the closest first after it falls forget about it take it out of your mind and move to the next smoothly and engage. You have to have a personal cadence for engaging targets if it’s close you have to be fast while still applying the fundamentals.
    200/250/300 meter target of course requires the shooter to take more time and apply the fundamentals precisely don’t rush the shot.


    Here is more information than you ever wanted to know about the M16/AR15 rifle and basic Marksmanship !

    https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_p...INAL%20WEB.pdf
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