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Thread: Defensive Pistol 145 September 19, 2020

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    Defensive Pistol 145 September 19, 2020

    Basic defensive pistol is back for 2020. Reveres Riders and John Viray of ACT have teamed up to offer this course. Sign up at https://www.reveresriders.org/event/...seelyville-in/ There are only 8 spots remaining to ensure plenty of 1 on 1 instruction. Tickets are selling so grab yours while they last!

    This would be an excellent opportunity to refresh your skills for those planning on attending the next level Defensive Pistol 209 in November. Pistol 145 Overview

    Prerequisites: Suggested—Revere’s Riders Pistol 100 or similar. This is not an introductory course and participants are expected to be capable of the following:

    • handling their firearm in a safe manner
    • keeping shots within a 6″ square from approximately 10 yards

    Estimated Ammunition Required: About 500 rounds/day.
    Pistol Requirements: Pistols should be of a modern, drop safe design.
    Older single action pistols manufactured before the 1980s and lacking a transfer bar safety are the most common type of pistol that lack drop safe design features, as do some military surplus imports from Eastern bloc countries and Taurus PT-series pistols not fixed during an international safety recall in 2015. These pistols may discharge if dropped and pose a potential safety hazard to our volunteers and students, and are not permitted. If you have concerns about the safety features of your pistol you should have it inspected by an armorer or gunsmith before class.
    The following are a good set of guidelines for an appropriate pistol for this event:

    • bring the pistol you intend to use for concealed carry; leave the brand new pistol you bought the day before the event at home
    • a medium-frame pistol is often ideal for concealed carry (e.g., Glock 19 or similar); smaller pistols are difficult to shoot accurately and larger pistols are uncomfortable to carry all day long
    • make sure your pistol is in good working order; if in doubt, have it checked by a qualified gunsmith or armorer. A pistol that malfunctions constantly will get you plenty of practice addressing malfunctions but not much practice with the drills

    If you have any questions concerning the suitability of your pistol for this course, please contact the Event Director.
    Required Equipment: Please review our suggestions on appropriate Pistol 145 equipment and plan to bring the following:

    • magazines or speed loaders: bring at least THREE (more is better, especially if you are using a pistol with a capacity of less than 10 rounds)
    • holster: a strong side holster that does not collapse when your pistol is drawn (no appendix, ankle, shoulder or small-of-back holsters). Either IWB (“inside the waistband”) or OWB (“outside the waistband”) are fine, but the holster you intend to use for concealed carry would be preferred. An OWB holster is often easier to use if you have never drawn from a holster before but will still allow you to participate fully in the drills we will conduct. The crucial aspect is that your holster MUST hold your firearm securely without letting it move around on your hip; this will necessitate a holster that attaches at TWO POINTS to your gun belt; there are a few holsters that attach to your gun belt at one point and still hold your firearm securely, but they generally attach over an extended length of your belt effectively simulating two points of attachment.
    • gun belt: you will have your pistol on your hip for the entire day. It will seem heavier as the day goes on and a good, sturdy gun belt will minimize that feeling. A standard belt isn’t going to cut it here; spend a couple of dollars on a quality gun belt if you don’t already have one.
    • magazine carrier (you can get by with putting spare magazines in a pocket, but a magazine carrier is much preferred)
    • a way to take notes
    • hearing protection
    • eye protection
    • plenty of your preferred method of hydration (both plain water and something to replace electrolytes you will lose via sweating is ideal)
    • clothing appropriate for the weather (loose fitting clothing, especially around the neck, is discouraged as hot brass can lodge against the skin and cause a burn)

    Optional Equipment: The following equipment is not required but may come in handy at the event:

    • hat with a brim (to deflect flying hot brass)
    • folding chair
    • lunch
    • snacks
    • sunscreen and/or bug spray

    Overview: Pistol 145 begins with an overview of the range rules, safety procedures and quick reminder of the fundamentals from basic pistol. From there, the course focuses on the mechanics of defensive pistol shooting. Lecture topics include: “Why do we do this?”, the physiological and psychological aspects of dynamic critical incidents for both the “good guy” and the “bad guy”, firearms and ancillary equipment for defensive use among other topics. Range exercises build on each successive evolution ending the day with a simple drill that rehearses the physical and mental issues dealt with during the class.
    At the end of the course, you will have learned a simple drill that will help you internalize the basics of defensive pistol craft.
    Last edited by diveski11; 09-03-2020 at 22:04.

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    This is an excellent class. I highly recommend it.

    You will walk away with new drills and skills to work on to improve your capabilities as a self defender and concealed (or open) carrier.

    You'll work on things like proper draw stroke, threat assessment, shooting while moving, clearing malfunctions, reloads, etc.
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    Successful completion of this class will vet you for the Defensive Pistol class in November

    Also, you should be able to get through this class with less than half of the recommended number of rounds. We are quite aware of the current ammo situation and will make sure that every shot will mean something more than just round count.

    If you have a .22 conversion for your defensive pistol, or a .22 version that fits your holster, most of the drills can be shot with the sub caliber replica. You will still need your centerfire defensive pistol for some of the drills and the final drill of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obijohn View Post
    Successful completion of this class will vet you for the Defensive Pistol class in November

    Also, you should be able to get through this class with less than half of the recommended number of rounds. We are quite aware of the current ammo situation and will make sure that every shot will mean something more than just round count.

    If you have a .22 conversion for your defensive pistol, or a .22 version that fits your holster, most of the drills can be shot with the sub caliber replica. You will still need your centerfire defensive pistol for some of the drills and the final drill of the day.
    John, how many are signed up so far?
    Anything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregkl View Post
    John, how many are signed up so far?
    There is still some room for more. Revere's Riders is the clearing house for that information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obijohn View Post
    There is still some room for more. Revere's Riders is the clearing house for that information.
    Thanks. I just didn't want to sign up and have it cancelled due to not enough people.
    Anything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregkl View Post
    Thanks. I just didn't want to sign up and have it cancelled due to not enough people.
    If we would cancel the event due to not enough people (we don't plan to do that), we would refund everyone's ticket purchase. Our "no refund" policy applies for situations where YOU fail to attend the event, not for situations where WE cancel the event due to unforeseen circumstances. If you're interested in Pistol 145, go ahead and buy a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopher View Post
    If we would cancel the event due to not enough people (we don't plan to do that), we would refund everyone's ticket purchase. Our "no refund" policy applies for situations where YOU fail to attend the event, not for situations where WE cancel the event due to unforeseen circumstances. If you're interested in Pistol 145, go ahead and buy a ticket.
    Thanks Gopher. That wasn't my intent on asking the question. I just don't want to forego other plans that I have to sign up, then this one get cancelled and I'm now out of both.

    That said, the other event is actually on the 12th so I'm good to go. I took this one last year so I'm still thinking about whether I want to take it again. I'll decide soon.
    Anything is possible

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    8 tickets remaining of 12 total. I believe there are enough sold to conduct the event. We run rain or shine, hot or cold, so risk of cancelation is extremely low. This is a class that can be taken more than once to solidify skills (without a shot timer beeping in your ear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by diveski11 View Post
    This is a class that can be taken more than once to solidify skills (without a shot timer beeping in your ear).
    I agree. Especially since I completely forgot how to do that drill! Doh! Got caught up in my home reno last year and didn't get enough reps in to remember it long term.
    Anything is possible

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