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  • Hawkeye7br

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    Riley Conservation Club will be hosting 2 matches in August.

    Wed Aug 15, we'll set up about 4:30pm, register about 5 pm, and start shooting at 6pm (or perhaps a bit earlier if we have enough entries to fill out the first relay). With the new format, this allows arrival up until 6pm without missing the chance to shoot sighters.

    Saturday Aug 18 Sign up until 10:15 am, Competitors meeting at 10:15. First relay will take sighters and shoot for score at 10:30 am.

    Both events will be fired on swingers, 60 rounds for score.
     

    rhino

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    I might be able to zero my rifle/scope (for the first time) at 25 yards on Sunday. Then I intend to make the time to shoot at least one time between then and 08/18/2018 to see where I hit at the specified distances.
     

    rhino

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    Don't bother with 25y zero. First target is 50 meters, zero there.

    Agreed, but if I get to shoot, the backstop is at 25 yards. Tough to zero at 50 m that way.

    That's why I'm planning to shoot again where I can shoot at 50 m and the other distances at some point between tomorrow and the next match. ;)
     

    Hop

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    Zero @ 25 yds. 50 M is within a half MOA.

    What distances are being shot & what sizes are the targets?
     

    natdscott

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    Zero @ 25 yds. 50 M is within a half MOA.

    What distances are being shot & what sizes are the targets?

    You're saying that those are YOUR zeroes, and you want to know what you need to expect?

    A 50 yard zero would serve you better, but it really doesn't matter much if you know your elevations.

    Assume 75-200 yards, and assume a 1 MOA target. If you can get that done, and just CLIP a 1 MOA circle, you'll be in good shape.
     

    Hop

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    That 25 yd zero advise was for rhino since "I have no idea where it's going to hit" & he only has a 25 yd range. :):

    I know my come-ups out to 150 but not beyond that. 1 MOA @ 200 with a rimfire sounds like a real challenge if that's true.
     

    Twangbanger

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    That 25 yd zero advise was for rhino since "I have no idea where it's going to hit" & he only has a 25 yd range. :):

    I know my come-ups out to 150 but not beyond that. 1 MOA @ 200 with a rimfire sounds like a real challenge if that's true.

    No, not that bad...it's closer to 3 moa of hittable surface. Give or take a little, 110 a little less, maybe a bit more at 165. (But I understood what you were trying to do, which was help him convert his 25 yard zero to 50m...).

    Rhino, where I was going with this: I have a pretty well worked out gun, and once you know your 50 m zero, my come ups are 2.5 MILs from 55 yds to 110, another 2.7 from 110 to 165 yards, and 2.8 more from 165 to 200. This is with 1075 subsonic out of 24" barrel and round nose ballistic coeff. Remember these are MILs, read right off the knobs (so convert to inches for you). Your results may vary a little, but it's a start.
     
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    No, no...it's closer to 3 moa of hittable surface. Give or take a little, 110 a little less, maybe a bit more at 165.

    Rhino, where I was going with this: I have a pretty well worked out gun, and once you know your 50 m zero, my come ups are 2.5 MILs from 55 yds to 110, another 2.7 from 110 to 165 yards, and 2.8 more from 165 to 200. This is with 1075 subsonic out of 24" barrel and round nose ballistic coeff. Remember these are MILs, read right off the knobs. Your results may vary a little, but it's a start.

    Thanks... I will convert your Mils to MOA and use them for my first guesses. I'm also going to see how well using the hashes in the reticle will work once I know how many MOA I drop at each distance.

    My rifle is a Savage Mk II FV SR with a 16.5 inch barrel. It will have a Gemtech on it, so I don't know how much that will affect the muzzle velocity, but I intend to do all of my shooting with it so it should be consistent. Ammo is CCI Subsonic 40gr Lead HP, but I only have 300 rounds, so I may zero with Fiocchi Subsonic 40gr Lead HP instead.
     

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    That 25 yd zero advise was for rhino since "I have no idea where it's going to hit" & he only has a 25 yd range. :):

    I know my come-ups out to 150 but not beyond that. 1 MOA @ 200 with a rimfire sounds like a real challenge if that's true.

    Which is why I said I was going to zero at 25 yards. Heh.
     

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    Here's your reticle Mr Rhino:
    sub_dbk-tactical_3-9x40_vmr-1_moa-t.jpg
     

    natdscott

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    That 25 yd zero advise was for rhino since "I have no idea where it's going to hit" & he only has a 25 yd range. :):

    I know my come-ups out to 150 but not beyond that. 1 MOA @ 200 with a rimfire sounds like a real challenge if that's true.

    I always quote conservatively in regards to wind. Given that it takes very very little wind at 200 yards to get 4-6" of drift, it is very much to your advantage to try to find a good ammo if you intend to shoot the longer stage. Annnnd some rifles will undoubtedly be differentiated. There's no "easy" way to sugar coat that.

    For standard velocity (1050-1100 fps 40 grain solids) .22LR in Indiana, just remember it's almost always +7-8 MOA per 50 yards. IE: +7, 7.5, 8,....and that would get you close at 200 yards. Really close.
     

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    ...Ammo is CCI Subsonic 40gr Lead HP, but I only have 300 rounds, so I may zero with Fiocchi Subsonic 40gr Lead HP instead.

    No. Don't do that... Maybe get "close" with the Fiocchi, but the last 50 rounds before going to Riley need to be the CCI 0035.

    At most, you should need 1 box per rifle for practice, and a box per match. If you need more ammo, I am certain​ somebody here can find some. The shop in Greencastle nearly always has it on the shelf.
     

    Hawkeye7br

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    Just a fyi, targets are about 2 MOA at each distance, give or take a little. Targets at 110 are huge, so big you can't miss (ok, maybe I exaggerate) but the 2MOA is pretty accurate.
     

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    No. Don't do that... Maybe get "close" with the Fiocchi, but the last 50 rounds before going to Riley need to be the CCI 0035.

    At most, you should need 1 box per rifle for practice, and a box per match. If you need more ammo, I am certain​ somebody here can find some. The shop in Greencastle nearly always has it on the shelf.


    Is that the 40gr Subsonic HP? I'm too lazy to fetch one of the boxes to look!

    This is what I have: https://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0056
     
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