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    Quote Originally Posted by rvb View Post
    5.7.2.1
    So even after the RO says "stop," getting a squib rod and clearing the squib right there (as is often done since you usually need a rod to check for a squib anyway) now gets the shooter a DQ? Regardless whether they sweep themselves, etc?
    What if the RO clears it?
    -rvb



    its all in how you look at it. 5.7.2.1 refers to what can't be done in 5.7.2, nothing else.

    5.7.4 covers what happens when the competitor gives up or 2 minutes elapse.

    then 5.7.5 and 5.7.7


    sometime just singling one rule out leads to the wrong call. I learned this the hard way and had to reverse a call I had made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blkrifle View Post
    its all in how you look at it. 5.7.2.1 refers to what can't be done in 5.7.2, nothing else.

    5.7.4 covers what happens when the competitor gives up or 2 minutes elapse.

    then 5.7.5 and 5.7.7


    sometime just singling one rule out leads to the wrong call. I learned this the hard way and had to reverse a call I had made.
    I don't see how those rules change the DQ, even after the stop but before "Range is Clear."
    5.7.2 says you can fix your junk, however, 5.7.2.1 is the exception .... can't fix squibs, it's "specifically prohibited." HQ then specifically included the phrases "whether the RO has called stop or not" and "during the course of fire."
    5.7.4 just sets the time limit, it doesn't say what you are or aren't allowed to fix, so that doesn't trump 7.5.2.1
    5.7.5/7 doesn't apply because a gun with a stuck bullet is not a "loaded firearm" per the definition.

    I would counter your list of rules with the NEW rule, 10.5.20, as well as 8.3.8.

    "During a course of fire" has long been included as specific language. It's why I never say "Range is clear" when someone has a race holster until they're done fiddling with the gun/locks, because if it falls out before the command vs after changes how it's officiated.

    I conclude that as ROs all we can do is confirm the squib, clear the range, and they have to fix it at the safe table... else the shooter ends up DQd.

    -rvb
    Last edited by rvb; 1 Week Ago at 16:04.
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