Need help with 358 Hoosier loads

308skinner · Dec 3, 2015

I cant seem to find anything it likes. Ive tried 180gr Barnes TTSX with 43.8 gr of H322 which didnt do bad. Ive tried 200 Hornady Interlocks with H322 from39.5gr to 42.5gr best i got was 1.1 MOA @ 100. Ive tried 200gr Hornadys with IMR 4198 aswell, from 35gr to 39gr. Best with that combo was 1.7 MOA @ 100. Also tried 200gr Accubonds with H322 from 43gr to 43.5gr best was 2.5 MOA. Any help or other loads to try would be great. The rifle is a 700 with a Shilen #4 built by Southern Indiana Precision.

Dwight D · Dec 4, 2015

I looked at your Data and consider it for awhile before replying. Sounds like you know what you are doing when it comes to reloading. Frankly I don't think you have a load problem, I think you have a rifle problem. You might look and see what can be done in that regard. If that Barnes or the Accubond won't shoot sub moa it is not likely much else will.

HuntMeister · Dec 4, 2015

I have had good results with reloader7 and the Barnes TTSX 180 grain.

308skinner · Dec 4, 2015

I talked to the smith and he says wait till deer season is over. Which would be late season Dec 26 to Jan 3. Then well pull it apart and look at everything. I think ive got a bad barrel.

I thought about try RL7 and RL10 with the 180 TTSX and 200 Accubonds. Just gotta go get some this weekend.

HuntMeister · Dec 4, 2015

I think you are minute of deer now anyways.
:cool:

308skinner · Dec 4, 2015

Best ive done is 180gr TTSX with 43.8 of H322 shot 1 and 3 touch and 2nd shot is 1.25 away.

17 squirrel · Dec 4, 2015

308skinner said:
Best ive done is 180gr TTSX with 43.8 of H322 shot 1 and 3 touch and 2nd shot is 1.25 away.

How dead do you want the deer to be ?

ctbreitwieser · Dec 4, 2015

I'm telling ya man, I'd stray away from the Barnes bullets. Merkel and massey will tell you the same. They just don't don't expand well enough on deer unless you hit a heavy bone. The Hornadys open up alot better. I don't think it's worth the risk of losing a deer like Merk did this year. I'm not saying they don't work, but your chances of losing one are much higher.

ctbreitwieser · Dec 4, 2015

Every deer I've shot with the Hornadys have either dropped in their tracks or left a red carpet of blood.

Dwight D · Dec 4, 2015

I shoot the 200 gr TTSX in a 358 Just Hunt 1.8 at an MV of 2887 fps and have shot 5 deer with it so far and expansion and terminal performance have been excellent. Perhaps the extra velocity plays a part.

308skinner · Dec 4, 2015

Im want best groups i can. So i can count on a good kill shot past 300yds.

308skinner · Dec 4, 2015

ctbreitwieser said:
I'm telling ya man, I'd stray away from the Barnes bullets. Merkel and massey will tell you the same. They just don't don't expand well enough on deer unless you hit a heavy bone. The Hornadys open up alot better. I don't think it's worth the risk of losing a deer like Merk did this year. I'm not saying they don't work, but your chances of losing one are much higher.

I know man, ive been working on loads with the Hornady, but no luck. Went from 34.5grs to 39grs with IMR 4198 with them. Had no luck on groups. Also went from 39.5 to 42.5 with H322 and Hornadys with really no luck. Had one group at 1.2 MOA 1 was a flyer. Not sure if it was me or load.

sstark39 · Sep 17, 2017

Have you considered the coal? Maybe lengthen or shorten a .001 or so? I know it made a huge difference on my 7mm rem mag! Might consider the cartridge overall length to improve accuracy.

ART338WM · Oct 11, 2017

308 skinner, have you seen a drop of interest in the .358 Hoosier since Indiana legalized most CF rifle rounds for use on private land? I was doing my best to find an affordable way to get a 358 Hoosier bolt gun then I stumbled on to the 35 Remington and once trimmed a little it also is public land legal. Although the 35 Remington is lacking a little performance wise VS the Hoosier, it also was when you add up the cost of brass, dies, donar rifle and smith fees about 1/3 the total cost of the Hoosier. When it came time to buy my two sons deer rifles, the Marlins just made the most financial sense.

ART338WM · Oct 11, 2017

ctbreitwieser said:
Every deer I've shot with the Hornadys have either dropped in their tracks or left a red carpet of blood.

Are you talking about the .358" 200 grain Hornady FTX? and if yes what MV are you guys pushing them at?

42769vette · Oct 11, 2017

ART338WM said:
308 skinner, have you seen a drop of interest in the .358 Hoosier since Indiana legalized most CF rifle rounds for use on private land? I was doing my best to find an affordable way to get a 358 Hoosier bolt gun then I stumbled on to the 35 Remington and once trimmed a little it also is public land legal. Although the 35 Remington is lacking a little performance wise VS the Hoosier, it also was when you add up the cost of brass, dies, donar rifle and smith fees about 1/3 the total cost of the Hoosier. When it came time to buy my two sons deer rifles, the Marlins just made the most financial sense.

If your still looking I have a 358 bfg that was built right, that I will include components on for a steal of a price (roughly 75% off of build cost.)

Need help with 358 Hoosier loads

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