I would like to buy a 2nd hand stripped lower. If I buy one from an individual, it most likely will have been originally assembled as I rifle. I suppose I should have it registered to me as a receiver if I intend to assemble it as a pistol. Am I over thinking this? For the relatively low cost, should I just buy new to begin with? Damn ARs are addictive. Thanks
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Question about buying 2nd hand stripped lower
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jgressley2003
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If you are that concerned about it why are you planning to buy a used lower?
Yes you are seriously over thinking this.
Not sure where you would "register" it, unless you were building an SBR.
As far as what it used to be, a rifle stays a rifle. If it's on paper anywhere being a rifle, it should be built as one. If you have no knowledge of it ever being a rifle, I'd say build whatever you want.
If the person you bought it from filled out the 4473, ask them what it was transferred as. As long as it was transferred as "other," you should be fine. Otherwise just go off of what you do know.
IANAL but I doubt you'll be in a position for someone to run the serial.
As far as what it used to be, a rifle stays a rifle. If it's on paper anywhere being a rifle, it should be built as one. If you have no knowledge of it ever being a rifle, I'd say build whatever you want.
If the person you bought it from filled out the 4473, ask them what it was transferred as. As long as it was transferred as "other," you should be fine. Otherwise just go off of what you do know.
IANAL but I doubt you'll be in a position for someone to run the serial.
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks
Why not buy a stripped lower if it has been built?
It he is building a rifle? NP if it was purchased as a pistol. If it was originally purchased as a rifle it can not legally be turned in to a pistol. It would he a SBR at that point. But you can convert a pistol to a rifle, NP. Yeah stupid rules, but rules is rules. You can not buy a 100% stripped receiver without declaring what you are building.
Sadly to say, the other argument is that "buying new" involves traceable paperwork that a perfectly legal private sale does not. Might be crazy tinfoil hat thinking, but...
CampingJosh
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I hate to be contrarian, but I don't understand the issue the same as the guys above.
ATF clarified this back in 2011.
ARs are not inherently designed as rifle only, so you can change back and forth between rifle and pistol so long as you never have a rifle (gun designed to be fired from the shoulder) with a barrel less than 16" or an overall length less than 26". As I understand the ruling (linked below) reconfiguring an AR from its non-NFA-regulated rifle form to its non-NFA-regulated pistol form is not "making" a firearm and so not illegal.
https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf
"Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when parts in a kit that were originally designed to be configured as both a pistol and a rifle are assembled or re-assembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol, or a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length).
"Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol)."
ATF clarified this back in 2011.
ARs are not inherently designed as rifle only, so you can change back and forth between rifle and pistol so long as you never have a rifle (gun designed to be fired from the shoulder) with a barrel less than 16" or an overall length less than 26". As I understand the ruling (linked below) reconfiguring an AR from its non-NFA-regulated rifle form to its non-NFA-regulated pistol form is not "making" a firearm and so not illegal.
https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf
"Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when parts in a kit that were originally designed to be configured as both a pistol and a rifle are assembled or re-assembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol, or a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length).
"Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol)."
AngryRooster
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Runs off to check the classifieds, there must be something good....
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