Hiding Preps In Plan Sight?

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  • JeepHammer

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    A brick/stone fireplace/chimney at a 'Camp' or recreation site.
    Or is it the hard stone work done before things happen, standing ready for shelter construction around it?

    Taking that idea one step further, no one would investigate when seeing scorched/soot on top, concealing an underground shelter.

    A concrete slab on a camp/recreational site, a 'Patio'.
    Ever wonder what's under a concrete slab?

    When you see a steel pipe sticking up out of the ground looking scorched, you might investigate.
    When you see signs posted saying to stay clear of the 'Natural Gas Vent' no one asks questions or shows up with shovels.
    The country is criss-crossed with pipelines & vents.
    Your underground shelter chimney or equipment stash is pretty safe below.

    Does anyone else have any ideas?
     

    Mgderf

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    It's been said here before, many, MANY times.
    "If you think it's time to bury your arms, then it's time to dig them up".
     

    bwframe

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    I think we lose track of modern day "policing." I'm pro law enforcement, not a cop basher at all, but the truth of the matter is that they err on the side of confiscation in the modern day.

    You shoot an attacker in self defense and everything in the immediate vicinity is likely to get "searched for evidence." A couple/three weapons, ammo and accessories can quickly turn into "an arsenal" in an officer's/department's/news reporter's mind.

    We'll not even go into red flag laws and or doxing.

    I think hiding in plain sight is an excellent idea that we should all think about.
     

    JeepHammer

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    It wasn't a firearms thread, it's about prepping.
    It was supposed to be about a *Potential* fall back position, a supplies cache, a 'Squat', or if you have the resources, an actual functional living position.

    SHTF is about EMERGENCIES, firearms only stop a potential threat from PEOPLE,
    While it's much more likely that nature or man made disasters will be the issue that makes you 'Bug Out'.
    Just fuel/rations stationed along your escape routes will put you light-years ahead of large migrations and out of choke points.

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    I saw a documentary about pot growers of all things, smugglers being really good at hiding things.
    They used a livestock barn, roof/open sides, cement floor.
    Shipping containers under the concrete slab, vented through the sump (animal waste) tanks.
    This explained the electricity & water the pot crop took.
    The livestock barn & waste tanks explained/covered the heat signature since the feds were using infrared to spot grows.

    The only way they got bused was a snitch, and it took a bulldozer to expose the grow, the feds couldn't find a way in until the busted through the top and located the entrance from inside.

    This rang a bell and I thought about the underground railroad during slavery days where concealed rooms were next to chimneys so fleeing slaves had heat and ingress/egress was outside the homes so an internal search wouldn't find them.

    No one wants to live underground, but it's the best place to be concealed.
    You will need heat, and you will have to 'Explain' or disguise that heat signature.
    Most urban dwellers don't know about gas vents/burn offs from pipeline & oil/gas fields.
    This makes both smell & heat signature, explains soot, etc.
    Smoke is another issue...

    Underground, but not obvious, under a commerical building would explain heat/soot/smell/smoke when the same chimney as the business/legal residence above.
    Legal occupation above masks your hide below, residents above don't even have to know of you below.

    Keep in mind with thousands of years of occupation in Europe, during WWII the resistance often lived below the NAZIs in old underground rooms/tunnels the Invaders didn't know had been built over.

    People are finding fallout shelters in homes they bought all the time in America.

    Thousands of water cisterns under older homes the owners don't know exist, empty and just waiting for discovery.

    Underground is a good hiding spot... Just ask any of the Viet-Nam vets...

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    As I've related in other posts, a golf cart is nearly silent, with a couple solar panels on the sun roof, it maintains itself at 100% charge status, and no one noticed it left in plain sight.
    It's a source of transportation & power for a 'Bug Out' location that doesn't have to be registered, licenced so basically no paper trail on that asset.
    A suitcase size generator makes it mobile on small quantities of fuel, and suitcase generators are quiet.

    They also don't generate big heat signature like combustion engines do, seen for miles & miles even through top cover like trees & camo nets.

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    It's called 'Operational Security' (Op-Sec) in the military, but in civilian life it's called 'Bug Out'.

    In Delaware 'Root Cellars' or 'Cold Storage' isn't taxed, simply because they encourage people to have shelter from Atlantic storms/hurricanes.
    The guys over there have taken advantage of this and built some REALLY nice 'Man Caves' and 'Family Rooms' in this underground/Earth sheltered space.
    They aren't hidden, but they are most certainly low profile...

    Just passing along ideas and asking for more!
     
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