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    Lone Ranger

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    Drone Attacks, A Real Threat Now?

    Saudi Oil Attack Photos Implicate Iran, U.S. Says; Trump Hints at Military Action

    Wondering what the ramifications of the recent Saudi Arabia drone attacks could turn into?
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    Cross post from the "Did WWIII just start?" thread is below. To answer the question in the thread title, remotely piloted aircraft used as guided missiles are absolutely a threat now.

    At the risk of sounding like a certain group in the Nevada desert (the 432nd Operations Group to be exact) these aren't drones. The MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper are remotely piloted aircraft. What the Houthis sent to the tank farm would be guided cruise missiles. The Air Force developed similar weapons to be launched and guided from bombers in WWII.

    The expensive part of a cruise missile is the guidance. If somebody is do the flying from the ground all of need to do is crash it on the target. Don't need a laser designator, don't need a Hellfire. Depending on how it's launched (Desert Hawk used a giant slingshot and that was 15 years ago) don't need a runway.
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    Can we get AAA de-listed from the NFA?
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    Is the bigger concern that we will be dragged into a foreign conflict or domestically attacked?
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    The CIA can do what they please. Still.
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    Grandmaster T.Lex's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    Is the bigger concern that we will be dragged into a foreign conflict or domestically attacked?
    Well, that's just a risk of being America, right?

    In terms of domestic attack, as Kelly notes, the tech for this isn't exactly proprietary. Seems to me a modern McVeigh wouldn't need a Uhaul, but a sturdy drone. Yeah, the immediate devastation wouldn't be as dramatic, but he could probably get away with more of it over time.

    In WWII, Japan sent bombs on balloons across the Pacific. At some point, the range of these things might work out that you just program GPS coordinates and it can make a similar journey. Or have a proxy state in central or South America, I guess.

    In terms of risk, though, an actual attack like this on CONUS (or Alaska/Hawaii) seems pretty remote.
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    Not up on the tech, my questions would be what's the useful load on one of these things and can they be jammed? I can see them being shot down by some sort of CAP as they aren't really fast. My thoughts on drone jamming is that it's one of those ULTRA grade secrets that's only going to be used sparingly if at all.
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    Or maybe not drones and maybe not the Houthis:

    https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/arch...et-the-quds-1/

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    Grandmaster T.Lex's Avatar

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    Hmm... upgraded V-2 basically.

    Seemed like the damage was more extensive than what we think of as a "drone."

    If it is GPS controlled, or flown with human input, it would be easy enough to vector around so as to hit from the west to give some plausible narrative that it came from Yemen. Minimally plausible.

    Or... [wait for it]... a false flag operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Lex View Post
    Hmm... upgraded V-2 basically.
    Well...more accurately V-1. V-2 had integral rocket engine and tail fins, V-1 had jet engine mounted on a pedestal and short wings.


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