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  • insidethebunker

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    Moderators if this posting is too long, please feel free to delete it and slap my hand. I can shorten it or break it up in different postings.

    In September 2008 a chain of events began which got me thinking about food storage and survival. Living in a small bedroom community to a moderately large city we’ve always had food, water and electricity, except for an occasional day or so when we have a storm. However things changed when Hurricane Ike rolled through the Ohio Valley (along the Ohio river). We had power outages and destruction city wide of the magnitude of what you would normally see from a tornado that hits part of the town… but in this case a city of 1.5 million was without power for weeks and 24 Kroger’s had to throw out all perishable food in dumpsters and were closed for close to a week. Add all of the businesses and school and transportation closings food wasn’t being delivered. Although our problems were never as bad as Katrina or Galveston it really drove home that we were not prepared.

    During the storm I couldn’t stop thinking of “my kids”, Boy Scouts in the poorer part of the town. They had no utilities and little food. I was a day away from taking a cook stove and setting up a mini food kitchen at a church near where they live. But what could I buy in bulk at Sam’s that they could cook on a fire for them live off of? Rice and beans, beans and rice, as Dave Ramsey says (but I hate Dave’s arrogance).

    An then the stock market crashed 9/29/08. So in 3 weeks what was a reality only in TV had come to my town… to my front door. A probable economic meltdown. A lousy choice of Presidential candidates, one very anti gun, and the other looking to close the trade show loophole as well as not being versed in the world political arena. It felt like end times.

    As the man of the house I realized how ill prepared I was to take care of my family. I had been talking about the future of gun control due to our potential next president but I didn’t have food storage or anything resembling survival preparedness on my radar.

    In the beginning months I have put several $100 of short term food, can goods, bags of rice, beans, sugar, salt, etc “on the shelf”. I bought 2 Mosin rifles and then to celebrate the election of our new anti-gun President I went out and bought an AR-15 the day after the election. Then I bought an AK and then I bought another AK, then I bought some 22’s and on and on.

    I began adding a few $100 of food each month to “the bunker” as we jokingly call the garage. My wife is actually impressed that we will have food on the shelf that she can go get when she doesn’t have something in the house. The goal of course is to pack away a year of food supply and then some.

    As far as long term food I did order and receive 2 of the 5 gallon sealed Red Wheat buckets, but at about $150 delivered for both it will be slow for me to stock the long term, air sealed, supplies.

    One of the first things I ordered was a dozen 100 hour emergency candles from beprepared.com. Being a Boy Scout for over 40 years made be appreciate their domain name, but the final price of $3 each got me to order from them. I also got a very nice Wheat Grinder from them too. I looked at a lot of Wheat Grinders on the internet but in the end came back to bepreparred.com and trusted their expertise and recommendation and ordered from them.

    Next I just purchased received 2 of the Vario Katadyn Dual water filtration water filter hand pumps. As we do a little backpacking and camping I felt I could justify them with the wife. By the way the Katadyn’s came from manventureoutpost.com.

    Now a few times over the first 12 months of prepping I’ve ordered Mylar bags, oxygen absorbers and diatomaceous from survivalunlimited.com. I purchased got a 20” 5mm bag sealer from dougcare.com. I’m lo bagging many food items as well as stocking spices, cereals and other supplies like matches and such.

    I’ve also read a lot in many forums about survival guns and have standardized the majority of my firepower on 9mm handguns and rifles, 12 gauge shotguns and a 22 rifle and 22 pistol for small food hunting. For 9mm handguns I already had two Rugars and a Keltec pistols but I did add a nice Springfield XD9 to the collection. I’ve since been blessed to purchase a Springfield XD9, subcompact, which is now my carry gun. On the rifle side I also wanted to stick with 9mm and already had a Highpoint 9mm rifle so I picked up an Olympic AR15-9mm. For a shotgun I went with the Mossberg 500 Dear and Field 12 gauge with 2 barrels which is at Dick’s for $340. My son has a Remington 870 In the 22 family and I chose a Savage 22lr Bolt action and a Savage semi-auto, each about $160 at Dicks. For the pistol I got a 22 Ruger Mark III which I believe many forums list as a very reliable 22. My son and I also bought a few Mosin Nagant m44 rifles (WW II Russian Surplus we bought at $80 each). We had been buying 300 round tins of ammo, 7.62 x54r rounds, for $64 a tin every few months which now are selling for about $100 a tin. This are great rifle and a blast to shot. Most of the armies of the world used a variation of these rifles for over 75 years and they have proven to be very reliable and extremely accurate at 300 to 500 yards. Now that I have met my basic armory equipment list the goal is to sock away about 10,000 rounds of each bullet or shell. After I get this all laid in and my year food supply then I’ll come back and look at different caliber guns, but for now I want to keep the ammo shopping list simple. The other thing I’m looking to do is duplicate all of the guns I purchase so I have parts if I have a breakdown of any kind. On my shopping list is to purchase a .223 ar-15. I did just buy a 30-06 Winchester at a gun show recently. I noticed that with all of the ammo shortages 30-06 ammo never sold out at Wal-Mart. It seems to be good hunting ammo and capable of some good ranges.

    Some other items I purchased are two small generators of the same make and model, once again so I have a backup. I also purchased an 80’s step van that has provided me with 6 months of storage and transportation for my Scout Troop. If things ever got bad I could dump the Scout gear and head to land we access to about an hour away.

    I’m sure there are several other little things like that I’ve ordered over the year. I know that some of this makes me seem like a nut but I’m not going to be the man God wants me to be if I don’t protect and provide for my family, parents, and in-laws.

    If my wife ever did the math on what I’ve purchased, about $3000 in guns, $3000 in food, $1000 in generators she would be well be upset but I also know that she respects my desire to protect my family in the best way I can. She also knows that this has made me confident and secure in my daily life and that will go a long way to help me more successful in my job and life.

    The biggest confidence for me has been to take the 2 day Appleseed rifle training program. I never had any experience hitting a target (I just pointed the rifle down range). Appleseed has given me all kinds of confidence and a skill to build on.

    Lastly I read several blogs and visit several forums. survivalblog.com is certainly where I start most evenings. Then I’ve got a list of about 5 forums I try to read daily. I’ve added this forum to my list as it makes sense to support those around me and build friendships.

    I’ve broken my Survival preparation list down into the following and listed each topic on a separate Excel Spreadsheet where I can collect information and do calculations on Food Life, Shelf Space, Cost per Units and equipment to buy.

    Lastly I signed up for the NRA and GOA.

    Signed
    Insidethebunker
    Lifetime member NRA
    Lifetime member GOA

    Periscope up, head down
     
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    Shay

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    I absolutely applaud your efforts to prepare yourself and your family for emergencies.

    The one constructive comment I will make is, by your own count, you have spent $7,000 on items (guns, food, power) but have taken only one training class. The Apple Seed class you took is a good start. There are other low cost training opportunities all around the state of Indiana. I would recommend you up the ratio of education to goods. As Steinbeck wrote, "The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental."

    Thank you for sharing your story!
     

    rambone

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    Welcome to INGO, brother! You are in good company. Preparedness is the name of the game. Sounds like you are doing a great job so far. You can never be too ready.

    Most of these purchases will prove their worth as investments, no matter what happens. As long as you rotate and eat the food, it has not been a wasted purchase. The guns can only increase in value. Investing in training will make you smarter and help you through any scenario you may face in the future.

    INGO is a great site, and has definitely been one of the best resources that I have found. There are a ton of regular posters so there are always people here to bounce ideas off of. If you find good info from other sites, bring it back here! Thanks for sharing!! :ingo:
     

    Sailor

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    You are may be more likely to need medical supplies than guns. Load up on them and get some medical training.

    Don't forget about disinfectants, like granular chlorine to make bleach. Also pest control could be an issue if shtf. Lice, mice, incects etc.
     

    JD31

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    I appreciate your post. Your journey and thought processes seem sane and very well reasoned. My wife questioned my sanity when I first started talking about preparing for the worst, but now she does see how the preparations for short term interruptions, and a bit more makes sense. I don't talk about the SHTF scenarios too much with her as it troubles her greatly. I just quietly aquire more than she knows.

    Food stuffs, backup power, alternate sources of heat, and fuel are easy to justify, but I still have trouble with justifying any HARDWARE (read firearms) purchases, as I think we are okay, with being able to protect our investments with what we have, but I agree, "You can never be too prepared." I just debate with myself, do I need more to get the job done? I have gone the economic route, so far, recently acquiring a new Hi-Point 9mm Carbine, but I would like to add an AK or AR, but it is a lot of money for us right now.

    Things don't look like they are ever going to get cheaper than they are now. So as long as things get used and rotated to keep them fresh, food investing is not a problem. However, expensive firearms for a hopefully far distant "might happen" scenario is harder to justify or reconcile in my mind as being prudent.

    Again, thanks for sharing. I will use parts of it to discuss with my wife and others about real experiences of others who have "been there" and what they learned to not be in the same boat again.
     

    Lex Concord

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    I went full bore for a while too. Training, medical supplies...all good advice.

    I was joking with my wife just the other day...what do you think will happen to the economy when all the "preppers" finally figure they have "enough" and stop buying extra?:):
     

    insidethebunker

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    I went full bore for a while too. Training, medical supplies...all good advice.

    I was joking with my wife just the other day...what do you think will happen to the economy when all the "preppers" finally figure they have "enough" and stop buying extra?:):

    Very funny perspective... I think though something similar, in reverse, happened to ammo. I think when the peppers ran out of money is when the Walmart, Bass Pro, and Dicks shelves started filling back up!
     

    insidethebunker

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    You are may be more likely to need medical supplies than guns. Load up on them and get some medical training.

    Don't forget about disinfectants, like granular chlorine to make bleach. Also pest control could be an issue if shtf. Lice, mice, incects etc.

    I do agree and have been buying those things too. However it took me about 9 months into the process to start buying larger quantities and better quality medical equipment.

    On the pest control issue you might also want to add to your shopping list those little mouse blocks. If mice get in your preps your screwed.
     

    Dr Falken

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    Yes, interesting post. I reminded, one is none, two is one. I try to dupe or standardize most of what I buy. One, because you have a back-up. Two, it reduces your learning curve on function and repairs.

    I don't know if I'd agree with the Hi-point carbine as being a great buy, just my opinion obviously, but I think a quality used 9mm or even a .357 revolver would be a better buy, with the addition of a .22 or a shotgun from a prepper perspective and to get the most from a budget.
     

    Beau

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    Mr. Jerry D. Young is what got me started. I happened to click on one of his stories in the break room. After reading I started reading some of the threads in this section. I soon realized how bad off my family would be if something as simple as a week long power outage occurred.

    I am still in the beginning stages of prepping. Really nothing more than reading as much as I can and stalking up on shelf stable foods. There is so much I would like to be able to do. With my current money situation it's just not possible.

    I appreciate your post insidethebunker. It has helped me to set some goals of my own. Thanks.
     
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