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    Quote Originally Posted by nakinate View Post
    I did see that picture. It was far from clean.

    Fair enough.



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    You guys are big meanies- George
    Training over tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercop View Post
    You guys are big meanies- George
    And you know this!

    So, if we manage to bring you back to Indiana, I say we take a road trip to Richmond so you too can feel the awesome fury that is the FULL BODY JAB!



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    Oh, you know I am all over it. I just want to learn the knife defenses that are easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercop View Post
    Oh, you know I am all over it. I just want to learn the knife defenses that are easy.
    Good point.



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    So I was searching for comments on knife training classes and ran across this old thread. It was worth waking up,esp the sandpaper condom. Spewed my wine on the keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusty88 View Post
    So I was searching for comments on knife training classes and ran across this old thread. It was worth waking up,esp the sandpaper condom. Spewed my wine on the keyboard.
    It's been so long that I didn't remember the reference. So I went back and read the topic again and I was amused to find the source of the aforementioned comment. There are some gold nuggets of multiple varieties in this topic . . . a little something for everyone.



    And knowing how much I enjoy quoting myself . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by rhino View Post
    I see that self-awareness is still in critically short supply in the big, brutal world in which we live.

    Good luck with all that, dude.



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    I haven't had a chance to review all of the responses to this post but just to address a few-

    Obviously, if given a choice between a knife and a firearm, the knife would not be the optimal choice. However, that doesn't mean that a knife is not an optimal choice for a lethal force threat under other circumstances. The reality is that while there are a lot of people out there that choose to carry firearms there are a lot more that don't. Simply put, if a person chooses not to carry a firearm a knife becomes the next best alternative for lethal force threats. The fact remains that knives are easily available and are probably the number 1 weapon used by average predators next to the firearm, maybe even followed by the firearm. Knives are found in every home in this country, they are used for hunting, fishing, utilitarian purposes, etc. In other words they are almost everywhere. They are also easily accessible outside this country. So, the prevalence of knives alone should be a motivating factor in learning to use one for defensive purposes. In reality, someone that is properly trained with a knife (and other sharp objects / improvised weapons) is NEVER unarmed. However, the same can't be said of firearms.

    Let us not forget the limitations of firearms- limited on ammo, can malfunction for a number of reasons to include bad ammo, improper grip, knocked out of battery during a struggle or a fall, can't always be carried (federal buildings, airplanes, schools, etc.). Also don't forget, while a missed round CAN potentially stop the threat it generally works best when the rounds land on the desired target which isn't always easy under the stress of a real, chaotic and explosive assault.

    Some questions to ponder- What happens when you run out of ammo DURING a fight for your life? What happens if the gun gets knocked from your hand? What happens if the gun malfunctions? What happens if the assailant disarms you of your precious gun? What happens when you reach for your gun and it's not there? The questions could go on and on but I think you get the point.

    There is saying that I use frequently- "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." In other words if all a person has is a firearm, every situation not only looks like a lethal force situation but they become overdependent on that firearm to be there and expect it to function perfectly when needed. Unfortunately if they loose their firearm or it fails to function as expected it can dramatically decrease their survival odds. Why? Because one's survival, especially under stress is dependent on having the ability to adapt to the given circumstances. That adaptation can only occur when appropriate options have been provided ahead of time- through proper training. So, if a person is so dependent on his/her firearm that other options have not been pursued, it's only logical that this person will not be able to adapt accordingly. After all, how can anyone be expected to know what to do if they have never been taught what to do under those specific circumstances?

    So, long story short- if someone wants to be able to successfully protect themselves or their loved ones under the chaotic and explosive nature of real violence they must become adept at using any and all means of adapting to the potential circumstances. They must have enough options that allow success without too many options that could potentially create physical and mental log-jam. In other words, learning to use a knife along side a firearm only makes sense if a person truly cares about his/her safety and the safety of loved ones.

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    So, if a person truly cares about their safety and they even think that they may somedaye be force to use letahl force to porect
    "The Best Defense is...FAST Defense."

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    One of these days I hope to learn knife defense to protect myself from myself. I'm not as dangerous as Rhino (is anybody?) but I'm not too shabby.
    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

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    I'm planning to do more multi-day backpacking trips soon, presuming I can reduce my time at work. Some states I may go to do not allow me to legally carry a firearm, so I'm going to take both Tarani's knife defense and walking stick classes. I don't think I'll ever want to be in a knife fight, but everybody on the trail has one so I may as well know something about using it if I have to.


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