Join INGunOwners For Free
Page 1 of 93 1 2 3 4 5 11 51 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 927
  1. #1
    Grandmaster Coach's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    Dry Practice Observations 2018

    I am halfway through the dry practice routine today. Going to try and post observations here from time to time from what I am seeing and how it is going. My current plan is this. 10-15 concealed carry draws with a gun of the same model as my carry gun. I don't want to unload and reload the carry gun everyday and go through so many rounds that get chambered repeatedly. I may even use my blue gun at times.

    I want to practice with both my Single stack gun and my Limited gun. I am going to do four different drills with the SS gun. Two of those drills requiring reloads, and two that do not. The two that do not require reloads will be 8 rounds per drill. One shooting left to right and the other shooting right to left. In an effort to be balanced on the direction of the shooting. Sometimes in USPSA the targets can appear from both directions and I want that to be a non factor. It should give me more options on stage break down. These drills should carry over to EDC as well since I will not have control over the direction that the threats appear.

    I plan to do some dry practice on steel challenge stages as well. I plan to do this with my Limited gun. These guns will come from the same holster for the time being. I have the grips on the SS and Limited guns set up to be very similar in size and thickness. So that switching back and forth the feel will be close. The Single stack gun has a very think grip. SS is recently converted to .40 and I have it running well. Hopes are high.

    I have the SS work already done for the day. The reloads were a struggle. The time off was evident. I had trouble gripping the magazine in the pouch and that was frustrating. When not fumbling magazines and the insert there were a number of good reps achieved to make me think this will smooth up in a couple of days and then perhaps some real improvement can be achieved. On 6 reload 6 I was able to use my Limited Gun times from last year with the skinny mags and make 75% of the par times.

    On 2 reload 2 the times from last years were not achievable. So I just worked the slowest part time for all sets. I made about 33% of those times total. Work to be done there. But if I can get SS reloads down to those times that will make things tough on the competition. 2 reload 2 was a speed focus and I did not handle that very well. Caught myself dropping the gun too much on some of them and that reload usually did not go well.

    The visual information today was fine. I was seeing the sights well at speed. There were some things that I did not like seeing but I at least saw it and can work on correcting it. After the reload I was not pushing back out with the sight aligned. They were high. WTF? Tomorrow it will be a point of focus. Should not happen and is costing me time. Calling it rust at this point.

    Need to do a little research and make a decision about shooting roundabout and then get the steel stages down.
    No one is stronger or more dangerous than the man who can harness his emotions.

    www.BrightFirearmsTraining.com

    abright@ccrtc.com


  2. #2
    Grandmaster Coach's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    Everyone is welcome to make their own posts and observations here for what they are doing. Perhaps it will do some good.
    No one is stronger or more dangerous than the man who can harness his emotions.

    www.BrightFirearmsTraining.com

    abright@ccrtc.com


  3. #3
    Master Twangbanger's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    I was always one of those people who thought Glocks pointed "just fine" for me. When people said, "Glocks point high for me," I thought they were smoking dope.

    I put a dot sight on one of my Glocks and have been dry firing daily with it for a few weeks. Guess what?

    Yup. Those suckers do indeed point high. Unnaturally so. Even after many weeks, it requires constant downward adjustment to center the dot. Dry fire SHO and WHO seems like a deliberate exercise in manually cranking an anti-aircraft gun downward to shoot a land based target.

    Go back to my open-sighted Glock, that I shot into B Production...bingo. Back to normal. OR, what I "thought" was normal.

    Not ready to go on a shopping trip yet. But it is food for thought.
    Last edited by Twangbanger; 12-29-2017 at 11:10.

  4. #4
    Grandmaster cedartop's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    Spent over an hour in the basement doing dry work last night. I thought the wife or daughter would come check on me but I guess they care even less than I thought. All my work was done with plate rack drills. At 10 yards your index mistakes really come to light with small plates. (6 inches).
    Michael Swisher

  5. #5
    Grandmaster BehindBlueI's's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Twangbanger View Post
    I was always one of those people who thought Glocks pointed "just fine" for me. When people said, "Glocks point high for me," I thought they were smoking dope.

    I put a dot sight on one of my Glocks and have been dry firing daily with it for a few weeks. Guess what?

    Yup. Those suckers do indeed point high. Unnaturally so. Even after many weeks, it requires constant downward adjustment to center the dot. Dry fire SHO and WHO seems like a deliberate exercise in manually cranking an anti-aircraft gun downward to shoot a land based target.

    Go back to my open-sighted Glock, that I shot into B Production...bingo. Back to normal. OR, what I "thought" was normal.

    Not ready to go on a shopping trip yet. But it is food for thought.
    Glock points high for me, especially if I've been shooting Sigs. However it's quick to overcome with some dry fire. Remember that a slight muzzle rise at the beginning of the press out can be a good thing. It helps you acquire the front sight faster and lets you settle into the notch gradually during the press out. A completely level gun at the beginning of the press out can, at least for some, be slower because your eyes initially pick up the rear of the gun and you have to transition your focus. I've certainly found that to be true for me with 3 dot set ups especially.

    Before shopping, I'd verify that you have a good press out. Once you get a consistent index and a proper press out, you should be able to do a good presentation with any grip angle. Also note that the grip angle that feels natural for presentation may not be the same as feels natural for recoil control, and IMO presentation is easier to adjust to, primarily because recoil control requires live fire whereas presentation can be worked on in dry fire, with airsoft, etc.
    L'otters are not afraid.

  6. #6
    Master Twangbanger's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    ...Also note that the grip angle that feels natural for presentation may not be the same as feels natural for recoil control...
    Hmm...yeah, I wondered about that. From duct-taping a dot sight on top of my 226, it sure does line up nice. But I wouldn't want to either machine up that slide, or buy another $1200 optic-ready gun, until I'm sure this result "sticks." I instantly shoot better when I rent a Sig 320 RX with optic; my follow up shots have more of a central tendency. That's disturbing.

    I have more work to do.

  7. #7
    Grandmaster cedartop's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    35 minutes

    Plate reload weak. 10 yards 16 reps 5.6 par Most inconsistent part is first shot weak hand after reload.
    Plate shoot off. 10 yards 16 reps 4.5 second par.
    Front sight forward. 7 yards 20 reps 2.1 second par. When pushing hard for speed on here, I have to stay very focused on moving my hands as fast as possible from start position to gun and off hand index point.
    2 reload 2. 7 yards 20 reps 2.5 second par. Reload is the make or break here. Consistent index is critical.
    Bill reload bill. 7 yards 20 reps 4.8 second par.
    Head shot sight picture. 10 yards 20 reps 1 second par. Remember to move hands to same pre draw index regardless of start position. Surrender, relaxed, or fence.
    Michael Swisher

  8. #8
    Master riverman67's Avatar

    User Info Menu

    I think this thread is a great idea. I might help keep me honest.

    I worked through drills 1-12 in refinement and repetition. I also did 50 reps of 2 reload 2 from concealment with the carry gear. I started out with 20 but it was so damn frustrating I couldn't stop.
    Luddite Crumudgeon #1

  9. #9
    Tired Of Winning

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by riverman67 View Post
    I think this thread is a great idea. It might help keep me honest...
    I grabbed one of my nearby BUGS to not have to unload/reload. It was in the factory case, in a holster that I forgot I had.

    I gotta load some dummy rounds and dedicate 3 mags to dry-fire. I don't carry extra mags at home, so I need some sort of mag carrier that doesn't need my belt threaded through it.
    Last edited by bwframe; 12-30-2017 at 13:34.
    -----------------------------------------------
    Done, done, and Im on to the next one...
    -----------------------------------------------

  10. #10
    Plinker

    User Info Menu

    Dry Fire Practice Routine:

    Day 1
    o 10x Draw, focusing on each count (access, withdraw, drive)
    o Single trigger press to 4 inch target, cycle for reset, perform scan and access, then work back to the holster
    o 10x Draw and double trigger press to 4 inch target
    o 10x From ready position V double action press to 4 inch target
    o 10x From ready position V single action press to 4 inch target
    o 10x Draw, strong hand only single shot to 4 inch target
    o 10x From ready position V support hand only, single shot to 4 inch target
    Day 2
    o 10x Draw, double trigger press to 8 inch target
    o 15x Primary malfunction clearance V two handed
    o Draw, single trigger press : tap, rack, access, one single trigger press
    o 15x Tactical Reloads:
    o Draw, single trigger press, tactical reload (retain magazine), access
    o 15x Emergency Reloads V start with empty magazine, slide locked open
    o Attempt one trigger press, conduct emergency reload, one trigger press
    Day 3
    o 10x Pivot 90 degrees in each direction V double trigger press
    o 10x Turn 180 degrees in each direction V double trigger press
    o 10x Sidestep each direction, double trigger press V 8 inch target
    o 10x Each direction V moving forward and reverse V multiple shots on 8 inch target
    Day 4
    o 10x Transitions between two targets V single shot on each V 4 inch target
    o 10x Transitions between two targets V double trigger press on each V 8 inch target
    o 10x Transitions between two target V three trigger presses on each, combination between 4 inch and 8 inch targets
    o 10x Transitions between two targets V three to six trigger presses on each target
    Day 5
    o 10x Draws focusing on each count of the draw (access, withdraw, drive)
    o Single trigger press to 8 inch target.
    o 10x Timed draws V start with a comfortable time and reduce by tenth of a second as you improve.
    o Single trigger press to 8 inch target
    o 10x Repeat draws focusing on each count of the draw (access, withdraw, drive)
    o Single trigger press to 8 inch target

Page 1 of 93 1 2 3 4 5 11 51 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •