This minor thing is starting to work my nerves. Gun safety.

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    Sigblaster

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    It seems everyone is SO concerned with demonstrating their "Gun Safety Awareness" that they must contort their hands into the same unnatural trendster grip that everyone else uses to "Safety Signal".

    You know what I mean. That photo op with the trigger finger stuck straight out along the side of a gun above the trigger. It sometimes appears that they are striving to angle that finger so high above the trigger, that they risk joint dislocation and tearing of tendons or ligaments or whatnot.

    Look, if you have time to smile and pose with your weapon, chances are that the apocalypse is not immediately upon you. You don't need to keep your finger THAT ready. Go ahead and drop that finger below the trigger guard on your AR, on the pistol grip of the weapon where it normally hangs out when you're actually patrolling. If your handgun is out of its holster, you can also keep your finger below the trigger guard for your facebook pics. If action was imminent, your finger would be on the trigger. If action isn't imminent, why do we even need to see your hand on the gun? Take a pretty picture of it laying on a table. Really don't need to see your hand to admire the gun. :):
     

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    If I am going to hold a gun, I want to grip it properly.

    If I am gripping a gun properly, my finger can't drop down below the trigger guard. That would be an unnatural contortion.

    But I also don't pose for pictures with guns.
     

    Sigblaster

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    If I am going to hold a gun, I want to grip it properly.

    If I am gripping a gun properly, my finger can't drop down below the trigger guard. That would be an unnatural contortion.

    But I also don't pose for pictures with guns.

    LOL. You've made all of my points!

    If I'm holding a gun, I'm either carrying it from point A to point B, in which case my finger should be below the trigger, or I'm ready to fire it should the need arise, in which case the act of my thumb moving the selector lever down naturally levers my trigger finger onto the trigger to meet the threat that caused me to move the safety.

    If I'm gripping a gun, it's because I need to fire it. Finger on the trigger. Good grip, sight picture, background, fire.

    I've posed for lots of gun pics, but I was in the military. It wasn't specifically about taking gun pics, it was about buddies, but of course we'd usually have guns. I should go find them pics, and see where our fingers were. :):
     

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    It seems everyone is SO concerned with demonstrating their "Gun Safety Awareness" that they must contort their hands into the same unnatural trendster grip that everyone else uses to "Safety Signal".

    You know what I mean. That photo op with the trigger finger stuck straight out along the side of a gun above the trigger. It sometimes appears that they are striving to angle that finger so high above the trigger, that they risk joint dislocation and tearing of tendons or ligaments or whatnot.

    Look, if you have time to smile and pose with your weapon, chances are that the apocalypse is not immediately upon you. You don't need to keep your finger THAT ready. Go ahead and drop that finger below the trigger guard on your AR, on the pistol grip of the weapon where it normally hangs out when you're actually patrolling. If your handgun is out of its holster, you can also keep your finger below the trigger guard for your facebook pics. If action was imminent, your finger would be on the trigger. If action isn't imminent, why do we even need to see your hand on the gun? Take a pretty picture of it laying on a table. Really don't need to see your hand to admire the gun. :):


    Man, I've seen some pretty ignorant things on INGO over the years, but dang....
     

    Sigblaster

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    Man, I've seen some pretty ignorant things on INGO over the years, but dang....

    Your trigger finger may be on the trigger on a combat patrol, or laying on the pistol grip on a less-likely encounter like a recon patrol, but NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY walks around for hours sticking their finger out straight like that.
     

    Hoosierdood

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    Trained my kids from the time they were old enough to shoulder a rifle how to properly handle a firearm.

    I'd feel much more comfortable having these 2 walking behind me than someone who thinks you should grab the grip like its a candy bar.



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    churchmouse

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    Your trigger finger may be on the trigger on a combat patrol, or laying on the pistol grip on a less-likely encounter like a recon patrol, but NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY walks around for hours sticking their finger out straight like that.

    Not under fire orb living the threat of being hell no. But at the line and just showing in general yes. Where have you been. Seems confusing. I changed up my grip because this just seems to be a better way at least for me.
     

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    THat is how I draw and present my side arm. And in the low ready I am cowboys and Indians. Finger straight above the trigger guard.

    On what ocassions do do you draw and present like that? In training and practice?

    I don't do that, and I'm kind of surprised that I haven't ever had an ND and blown a hole through my bathroom mirror and the back of my house.

    I check, recheck, and check again, then drill in the draw/present/fire. Simple mirror drills. See what you're doing, evaluate the opponent you might be, and exfiltrate when your wife comes in to do her makeup.
     

    Sigblitz

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    Trained my kids from the time they were old enough to shoulder a rifle how to properly handle a firearm.

    I'd feel much more comfortable having these 2 walking behind me than someone who thinks you should grab the grip like its a candy bar.



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    They look like they're having a terrible time. You better get them some ice cream.
     

    churchmouse

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    On what ocassions do do you draw and present like that? In training and practice?

    I don't do that, and I'm kind of surprised that I haven't ever had an ND and blown a hole through my bathroom mirror and the back of my house.

    I check, recheck, and check again, then drill in the draw/present/fire. Simple mirror drills. See what you're doing, evaluate the opponent you might be, and exfiltrate when your wife comes in to do her makeup.

    What ever works for you. No knocks.
     

    Sigblaster

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    Trained my kids from the time they were old enough to shoulder a rifle how to properly handle a firearm.

    I'd feel much more comfortable having these 2 walking behind me than someone who thinks you should grab the grip like its a candy bar.



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    Well, that's just adorable. I miss my kids being that young. They're going strike out on their own before you know it.

    I have a similar picture, 8 x 10, on my frige. My oldest was not present for the picture, unfortunately. 2nd oldest is holding an M1A, all fingers behind the trigger guard. 3rd oldest is holding an AR rifle. All fingers on the grip, none posing. Even my youngest, who is barely holding up an ar pistol for the pic, didn't have her finger anywhere the trigger.
     

    Sigblitz

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    Trigger discipline is one of the fundamental things we learn. It's only natural to present that way. If someone hands me a gun, I treat it as if it is loaded. Especially children you love, always treat a gun as if it's loaded.
     
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