New York: 60 Days in Jail for Un-mowed Lawn

[public servant]

*Raises hand*

My neighbors, like me, are on a 20 to 30 year debt wheel. They work way too hard to have me letting my yard look like that.

Whatever happened to respect for the property rights of others?



If I knew them, if they were my immediate neighbors, I'd talk to them see if they needed help.

Next, call the City Engineer and complain. Send them a cell phone pick.

Call the Neighborhood Association. Next, call the Mayor. Make noise as silence equals consent.

It's pretty dry and windy out Kirk. Do you think accidentally dropping a cigar in it would help? Oops...short grass wouldn't burn like that.

I'm well aware that the world is full of lazy people who wouldn't cut their grass because...well...they are just too damn lazy.

But is it really full of that many people that feel that "It's my God given right not to cut my grass. The founding fathers spilled their blood so I wouldn't have to cut my grass. By the Grace of God...I'm a free man."

What you are is a dumbass.

I change my original answer...jail is just the place for them.

Now get your ass out of mom's basement and get that grass cut.

Some people just like to argue for the sake of argument...no matter how retarded their position.

Now...Fletch...who made a semi-valid point. Is one neighbor's laziness going to de-value the price of your home? Maybe...maybe not. But what do you think happens when half or three-quarters of the neighborhood stops cutting theirs?

I mean...if it's OK for one....it's OK for them all...right? You won't be able to give that expensive home away.

 

[Fletch]

Now...Fletch...who made a semi-valid point. Is one neighbor's laziness going to de-value the price of your home? Maybe...maybe not. But what do you think happens when half or three-quarters of the neighborhood stops cutting theirs?

I mean...if it's OK for one....it's OK for them all...right? You won't be able to give that expensive home away.

*shrug* Ya rolls the dice, ya takes yer chances. My house didn't come with a guarantee of good neighbors.

If I was trying to sell the place and had that problem going on, I'd let the neighbors know and offer to pay for lawn service until it got sold. If the depreciation is that bad, covering lawn service for the neighborhood will still be cheaper in the long run.

Of course, this probably won't come up for 30 years or so, since I'm pretty well staying in this spot unless something drastic happens.

 

[dross]

But is it really full of that many people that feel that "It's my God given right not to cut my grass. The founding fathers spilled their blood so I wouldn't have to cut my grass. By the Grace of God...I'm a free man."

.

Isn't it someone's God given right to do or not do what they want with their own property? The thread is about depriving someone of their liberty if they don't cut it. I don't see how that's trivial at all. The founding fathers spilled blood so that people had property rights, that's for sure.

As to property values, your neighbor has nothing to do with them. He operates as he wishes on his own property, but it's the potential buyers for your home that determine its value, not your neighbor. Why should your desire to increase your equity take precedence over his right to use his property as he wishes?

 

[RichardR]

I mean...if it's OK for one....it's OK for them all...right?

Interesting point Public Servant.

The City owns a vacant lot next door to my house & the City has bush-hogged that property about 6 times in the last 11 years, so essentially it's always overgrown & full of litter.

I used to clean it up just because it annoyed the crap out of me but when the City forced me to mow down my wild flowers I stopped doing it.

Shouldn't the City hold themselves to the same standards that they hold their citizens to?

I mean I wasn't allowed to grow a patch of wild flowers to attract butterflies yet at the same time the City allows their property to be completely overgrown & full of litter right next door to me, how is that supposed to make me feel?

I don't know who said it but this quote pretty much nails my thoughts on the matter: "tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry."

And there seems to be quite a bit of this tyrannical double standard these days, our freedom seems to be limited to what ever thought, act or product the government hasn't gotten around to restricting yet.

 

[rambone]

Most of America has not adopted the Grass Nazi policy mentioned in this thread. I can't believe the country have survived 234 years without such provisions.

 

[Roadie]

My wife lived in upstate New York several years ago, and was arrested for leaving a bag of trash on her porch. Not ticketed, handcuffed, back of the cruiser, the whole bit.

She forgot to take the trash to the curb on trash day, and when a neighbor saw it on her porch, called the Po Po, and she was arrested.

Words, still fail me.

 

[public servant]

Shouldn't the City hold themselves to the same standards that they hold their citizens to?

Absolutely they should.

Pertaining to the wild flowers you were forced to mow down...now that I would have fought against.

There's doing what's right and then there is full blown retarded. You were a victim of the retards.

 

[Vasili]

Absolutely they should.

Pertaining to the wild flowers you were forced to mow down...now that I would have fought against.

There's doing what's right and then there is full blown retarded. You were a victim of the retards.

which wouldn't be a problem, except

retards: the world is FULL of em.

 

[public servant]

Isn't it someone's God given right to do or not do what they want with their own property? The thread is about depriving someone of their liberty if they don't cut it. I don't see how that's trivial at all. The founding fathers spilled blood so that people had property rights, that's for sure.

As to property values, your neighbor has nothing to do with them. He operates as he wishes on his own property, but it's the potential buyers for your home that determine its value, not your neighbor. Why should your desire to increase your equity take precedence over his right to use his property as he wishes?

You really do not think that your neighbor's refusal to mow the lawn wouldn't reflect in a potential buyer's willingness to offer a more fair market value?

Please...be realistic. The two are directly related.

I'm not talking about increasing the equity. I'm talking about maintaining the current value of.

 

[public servant]

which wouldn't be a problem, except

retards: the world is FULL of em.

And apparently they don't like cutting the grass.

 

[Archbishop]

Remind me never to go into the country ever again lest I want to get swarmed by rodents and mosquitoes.

Oh yeah and mosquitoes breed in water not grass.

Too tired and lazy to explain this, but look it up should be pretty straight forward. Tall weeds can become a home to mosquitoes and small rodents.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

I live in a neighborhood of $400K - $3MM homes. We have ALL kind of rules what you are and aren't supposed to do. My neighbor has a trailer in his back yard. I'm the only one that can see it. I could absolutely care less. He paid $500K+ for his house. If he wants to store his trailer on his property who am I to tell him how to use his property?

I have an empty house next to me. Sometimes I mow the grass if the lawn service hasn't been out. Keeps the squitos down. Takes about an hour. Not a big deal.

Then there's my other neighbor with a $1.5MM house that the mafia burned up over a year and a half ago. It's still not fixed. Does it affect my home value? Probably not unless and until I want to sell it. Until then it means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

With all three of these homes I lose vision as soon as I walk into my own home. Point is that if you are looking to find something to be pissed off about, you will. If you are looking for something to fight over, you will. But the easiest thing is to seek serenity. It's as easy as walking through your front door.

 

[dross]

which wouldn't be a problem, except

retards: the world is FULL of em.

And it seems that the government and all its branches is extra-full.

 

[rambone]

My wife lived in upstate New York several years ago, and was arrested for leaving a bag of trash on her porch. Not ticketed, handcuffed, back of the cruiser, the whole bit.

She forgot to take the trash to the curb on trash day, and when a neighbor saw it on her porch, called the Po Po, and she was arrested.

Words, still fail me.

Well I (for one) sympathize with you.

People always justify outrageous laws by saying that the cops will use "common sense" when approaching the situation. Guess that's not enough of a firewall between good people and oppression.

Shouldn't the City hold themselves to the same standards that they hold their citizens to?

Should "the city" even be able to own vacant lots? It always warms my heart to hear of a government possessing someone's land, demolishing their home, and then leaving it sit for years.

 

[dross]

Well I (for one) sympathize with you.

People always justify outrageous laws by saying that the cops will use "common sense" when approaching the situation. .

I don't trust common sense because it's usually neither.

 

[SavageEagle]

With all three of these homes I lose vision as soon as I walk into my own home. Point is that if you are looking to find something to be pissed off about, you will. If you are looking for something to fight over, you will. But the easiest thing is to seek serenity. It's as easy as walking through your front door.

Amen to that and if someone would quit screwing with the rep system I would rep you for it!

 

[hornadylnl]

I figured out why the Indians were so poor and had so a low standard of living. They didn't mow around their teepees and wigwams. If they had, their properties would be worth more. Why, they wouldn't have all those skeeters and rodents around either.

All this time we've been sending money and food to the third world. We should just send lawn mowers to them. They can mow their yards and increase their wealth.

 

[SavageEagle]

Now THAT'S funny right there! I don't care who you are.

 

[Ramen]

You really do not think that your neighbor's refusal to mow the lawn wouldn't reflect in a potential buyer's willingness to offer a more fair market value?

Please...be realistic. The two are directly related.

I'm not talking about increasing the equity. I'm talking about maintaining the current value of.

If I am responsible for the value of my neighbors house, then I should be receiving a portion of the sale value of the house. I should also be paying part of their property taxes, as my neighbors should be paying part of mine. Since we are responsible for the value of each other's property.

 

[E'villeGunner]

Remind me never to go into the country ever again lest I want to get swarmed by rodents and mosquitoes.

Oh yeah and mosquitoes breed in water not grass.

Okay, do you know what urban means?

And when property owners let their grass go uncut for weeks/months at a time in an urban setting, tends to attract trash/junk because no one is taking care of the property. And that trash/junk will tend to cause water to collect and provide a breeding ground for mosquitoes.

And after listening to the video several times they never once mentioned that anyone was ever arrested/sent to jail for this. Just that they "COULD". If they don't mow their damn grass!

If your going to live inside a city limits then you HAVE to know that there are ordinances that you have to abide by. If you don't like them, then get involved in your government, or get out!

They are just wanting property owners to take care of their property and to keep their city looking nice. What in the world is wrong with that?
Apparently asking the property owners didn't work. Sending written notices didn't work.

Most municipalities have some type of ordinance for weeds.