Porter County Speeding Ticket...

[evilblackrifle]

I can't believe that I just read 16 pages of a thread that consists of nothing more than the OP crying about getting a ticket and his feelings hurt. Man up! If you didn't like his attitude you should have been a MAN and said something to him and hashed it out right then and there.

Getting all butt hurt, calling his boss, and crying about it on the internet is just pathetic!

Believe me, I did tell him his cantor was hugely inappropriate, and was offended. He shrugged his shoulders and walked back to his car. So yeah, I did what you said.

 

[tom1025]

^^ but this does not mean that you can just assume everyone is one of those and treat them bad. many more "normal" people are pulled over than hardcore criminals. this related to the govts view that surrendering some of your rights to be safe is acceptable (patriot act). but its really not. we dont know if he got an attitude or not. you would think i may have an attitude with an officer if pulled over, but you would be wrong. i simply do not answer any questions, or speak.

You and me both. I don't say anything either other than greeting the officer when he approaches the vehicle.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I can't believe that I just read 16 pages of a thread that consists of nothing more than the OP crying about getting a ticket and his feelings hurt. Man up! If you didn't like his attitude you should have been a MAN and said something to him and hashed it out right then and there.

Getting all butt hurt, calling his boss, and crying about it on the internet is just pathetic!

Brilliant idea of arguing with a person with a bad attitude that has a gun and the ability to arrest you for whatever reason he sees fit.

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

Believe me, I did tell him his cantor was hugely inappropriate, and was offended. He shrugged his shoulders and walked back to his car. So yeah, I did what you said.

Nice Freudian slip, mate!

Cantor - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of CANTOR

1
: a choir leader : precentor

2
: a synagogue official who sings or chants liturgical music and leads the congregation in prayer

 

[walker]

This is only one side of the story. It would be interesting to here the officers side. We are adults and should be setting examples for others to follow. So far you failed by showing that you do not have to obey speed limits. Now according to your side of the story (don't have the officers side), he failed also. All of this happened because you desided that you didn't have obey the speed limit, and you don't like his reactions to your actions.... IF you would not have gone over the speed limit and never got the ticket, would you be complaining about the officer?????????

 

[Dredd]

WAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAA oh you got a ticket for going 20 over? why dont you be a big boy and pay the fine and learn your lesson. 250 $ isnt that much when you remember you could have killed a family driving like an idiot. you cant speed without especting to pay the consquenses. If i had a nickel for every crybaby who contested my tickets i would be a rich man. Sorry man you did wrong and you will lose. dont try and be a toughguy and you wont get a attitude from me.

 

[The Keymaster]

WAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAA oh you got a ticket for going 20 over? why dont you be a big boy and pay the fine and learn your lesson. 250 $ isnt that much when you remember you could have killed a family driving like an idiot. you cant speed without especting to pay the consquenses. If i had a nickel for every crybaby who contested my tickets i would be a rich man. Sorry man you did wrong and you will lose. dont try and be a toughguy and you wont get a attitude from me.

I am sure this gentleman is the exception to the rule relative to the literacy of the LEO community.

 

[evilblackrifle]

WAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAA oh you got a ticket for going 20 over? why dont you be a big boy and pay the fine and learn your lesson. 250 $ isnt that much when you remember you could have killed a family driving like an idiot. you cant speed without especting to pay the consquenses. If i had a nickel for every crybaby who contested my tickets i would be a rich man. Sorry man you did wrong and you will lose. dont try and be a toughguy and you wont get a attitude from me.

Your attitude is EXACTLY THE TYPE i'D ARGUE FOR. FOR THE 20TH TIME IN THIS POST, JUST BE RESPECTFUL...THAT IS ALL....CAN YOU NOT READ? I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT....LEFT TO RIGHT, GROUP WORDS TOGETHER AS SENTENCES...WE ALL KNOW POLICE NEED LIMITED EDUCTATION...A 2 YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE DEGREE...COME ON!!!! GET A LIFE LOSER.

 

[evilblackrifle]

After reading many of the posts on here...it seems we have a clash between the LEO community and ordinary citizens...

Again, cops, obey the speed limits, and there will be no problem. Leave us alone unless its warranted. Speeding is normal, speed limits are set arbitrarily low to gain more revenue. But, cops will never obey, so we'll continue to have this discussion until the world ends. Period. If I don't get a call back, I will proceed with the next level. His conduct was unacceptable, and I will take it as high as I possibly can. Period.

 

[Denny347]

WE ALL KNOW POLICE NEED LIMITED EDUCTATION...A 2 YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE DEGREE...COME ON!!!!

WTF is that supposed to mean?

 

[ReSSurrected]

I am sure this gentleman is the exception to the rule relative to the literacy of the LEO community.

Don't kid yourself, no way in hell is Dredd a LEO. He's 100% troll, here to get people's dander up. I've got a benjamin that says he's a recently banned member posting through a proxy.

 

[Brandon]

why should anyone be as concerned with cops going the speed limit? (unless like the other post where the guy is racing to the mall... that one i do not agree with) you would be better off trying to convince criminals/would be criminals to do something more legal/ or not doing anything illegal at all. as far as im concerned not going the speed limit, esp by as much as you were exceeding it was reason enough for him to have an attitude.

 

[j706]

We all have our opinions on this issue...70/55 is fine for me. Cars still pass me up. As long as I'm not flying past every car on the road, and keeping a fair pace with traffic, where's the problem? In my opinion, (which really doesn't matter here), you do less harm to the travelling public when you keep pace with the rest of the traffic.

I will fight the cop's demeanor to the end, not the ticket itself; its a losing battle. If it were so important to do the speed limit, the cops would do the speed limit as well. Period.

I don't know anything about Porter County's complaint system but many agency's (Including the one I work for) will not take a complaint pertaining to incidents involving UTT's and or arrest's. Those complaints are to be addressed with the courts. The reason? Way to many people attempt to claim rudeness ect when they get cited arrested because they are ticked. The courts will more than likely not care much about the complaint because of the above. But...if a judge hears the SAME complaint regarding the SAME officer over and over than they will know it is more than likely correct. That does happen too.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I don't know anything about Porter County's complaint system but many agency's (Including the one I work for) will not take a complaint pertaining to incidents involving UTT's and or arrest's. Those complaints are to be addressed with the courts. The reason? Way to many people attempt to claim rudeness ect when they get cited arrested because they are ticked. The courts will more than likely not care much about the complaint because of the above. But...if a judge hears the SAME complaint regarding the SAME officer over and over than they will know it is more than likely correct. That does happen too.

i think this is one of the worse things I have heard and a complete failure on the part of governments requirement to serve the people.

All this does is protect the rich and screw the poor or even middle class. It also facilitates LEO abuses of power, and illegal activity. This would **** me off if I had an incident with one of these Podunk departments and make me wanna go to the media that much more. I bet they would take a complaint then wouldn't they?

 

[steveh_131]

Crying about a $250 deferral but is ok with a $400 radar detector, so you can continue to speed? Give me a break.

Isn't 49 a 2 lane rural road? Going 71 on the toll road or 65 is much different than going 71 on a 2 lane road where farm equipment and school buses are. Use your head man.

Hey, some of us have eyes and are able to slow down when we see farm equipment and school buses. I know that's a crazy concept to you folks who are unable to drive safely if a road sign doesn't tell you how.

If my analogy doesn't work, then your claim to be their "boss" doesn't work either. If you think you're somebody's boss then the next time you disagree with a police officer tell him that he's thereby fired and you'll take his badge for him. The fact is, you're MORE his customer than his boss. I'm trying to be helpful in saying that if you approach the situation from a customer perspective rather than a "I'm his boss and he owes me" perspective you'll get much further.

No. Again, this is not a clear analogy. It doesn't matter who pays their paycheck and it doesn't matter who they report to or who fires them. What matters is their own perspective and attitude. Their goal on a daily basis should be to serve the public and to help people. Not to stomp on our necks and show us what big scary men they are because we were driving over an arbitrary speed limit in a completely safe manner.

Their employer is the city/state/town/township in which they work for. not you.

on a side note where do you work? i would like to walk in and buy the cheapest thing possible and claim you work for me since i paid a very small fraction of your paycheck and cry like a little baby because you didnt smile or say.

And what makes up a city/state/town/township? The people who live there.

I worked in retail for a few years. And yes, if I had treated a customer poorly, regardless of what they purchased, I would have been reprimanded and/or fired. But again, this is a ridiculous analogy because cops are completely unaffected by the free market.

It's a shame that so many cops don't have any sort of moral or ethical issues with treating citizens like annoying insects to be smeared on their windshields. Your badge doesn't earn you respect. Your badge just makes you a glorified tax collector with a gun. If you want respect, you'll have to earn it by doing your job the way it ought to be done.

 

[j706]

i think this is one of the worse things I have heard and a complete failure on the part of governments requirement to serve the people.

All this does is protect the rich and screw the poor or even middle class. It also facilitates LEO abuses of power, and illegal activity. This would **** me off if I had an incident with one of these Podunk departments and make me wanna go to the media that much more. I bet they would take a complaint then wouldn't they?

Go for it dude the media won't give you the time of day for a traffic citation or arrest complaint about perceived rudeness. Even if they did it does not change policy.

Re read the post's. The majority of the posters seem to see the OP for what it really is-whining over a citation.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Go for it dude the media won't give you the time of day for a traffic citation or arrest complaint about perceived rudeness. Even if they did it does not change policy.

Re read the post's. The majority of the posters seem to see the OP for what it really is-whining over a citation.

re-read my post and you will see that I was one of the first ones to say if he was speeding he needed to pay.

I dont think this is an attempt to get out of anything. Your attempting (by taking focus off the LEO by discrediting the OP) to show why the LEO was justified in being an ass and unprofessional, and criminally reckless in my opinion by speeding excessively for no reason and endangering the lives of innocent people. And there are ways to make sure the media listens. those favors you just need to keep in your back pocket sometimes No one is certainly gonna jump on the LEO praise wagon right now, especially the media. I already know you believe you are one of the elite. you are the kind of cop I wanna see de-badged. all one has to do is read your post to know where you stand against the citizens. glad your not in my town

 

[jsharmon7]

Again, cops, obey the speed limits, and there will be no problem. Leave us alone unless its warranted. Speeding is normal, speed limits are set arbitrarily low to gain more revenue. But, cops will never obey, so we'll continue to have this discussion until the world ends. Period. If I don't get a call back, I will proceed with the next level. His conduct was unacceptable, and I will take it as high as I possibly can. Period.

So what exactly are you upset about again? You said it was the officer's bad attitude, now it's the other cops you see speeding, then you mention arbitrary speed limits designed for revenue generation. I really have no dog in this fight, it just seems more and more like you're just mad about getting stopped.

No. Again, this is not a clear analogy. It doesn't matter who pays their paycheck and it doesn't matter who they report to or who fires them. What matters is their own perspective and attitude. Their goal on a daily basis should be to serve the public and to help people. Not to stomp on our necks and show us what big scary men they are because we were driving over an arbitrary speed limit in a completely safe manner.

I agree, law enforcement should be polite and professional. You're STILL not anybody's boss. That was my original point.

I dont think this is an attempt to get out of anything. Your attempting (by taking focus off the LEO by discrediting the OP) to show why the LEO was justified in being an ass and unprofessional, and criminally reckless in my opinion by speeding excessively for no reason and endangering the lives of innocent people. And there are ways to make sure the media listens. those favors you just need to keep in your back pocket sometimes No one is certainly gonna jump on the LEO praise wagon right now, especially the media. I already know you believe you are one of the elite. you are the kind of cop I wanna see de-badged. all one has to do is read your post to know where you stand against the citizens. glad your not in my town

Why is that? Because he's trying to be honest with the OP by stating that there is a chance the complaint won't be heard because it involves a UTT as is protocol in his department? Or is it because he doesn't believe that your suggestion of going to the media will make a bit of difference? The fact that he doesn't agree doesn't make him "against" the OP. And the fact that he thinks the OP is just whining is a feeling shared by many people who have responded so far. As I stated earlier, if the officer really was so terrible and evil to him then it doesn't sound like he was very professional. The more I read though it sounds like the OP is just mad. I wasn't there and I don't know the OP or the officer involved, that's just how it's starting to appear.

 

[steveh_131]

I agree, law enforcement should be polite and professional. You're STILL not anybody's boss. That was my original point.

Cops are employed by the government.

The government is employed by the people.

Therefore, cops are employed by the people.

 

[Denny347]

Cops are employed by the government.

The government is employed by the people.

Therefore, cops are employed by the people.

Yeah, but that does not make you my boss (supervisor).