I was told by a friend that I should be stock piling ammo and not shooting it

[terrehautian]

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Dude, just a word to the wise, you really shouldn't deplete your ammo supply unless you can replace more than you're shooting, and do it as you go. There have been lines of 20+ people waiting outside Gander Mountain every Thursday morning when they get ammo shipments in and even people in line at 5 a.m. at Walmart when new ammo shipments come in--I know, because I've been there. Have you seen the empty ammo cases at Walmart and elsewhere? Everyone is really worried about what we're heading toward in this country, and depleting your ammo supplies probably isn't a smart move unless you can replace what you're shooting relatively quickly. Take a look at recent articles--even local police departments are having trouble obtaining ammo, while the federal government is placing orders for hundreds of millions of HOLLOW-POINT rounds:
https://www.google.com/search?q=ammo+shortages
I haven't shot any rounds in several months, and the last time I did so was before the current ammo crunch hit at the end of 2012. Seriously, dude, you need to be stockpiling lead and not shooting it off. Take a look at some of the articles at the link above. Ammo is becoming increasingly hard to find, and you really don't want to be without it. Better to stockpile it in case you need it than to need it and not be able to find it.

I responded saying I am getting more 22 this week and he replied back.

Dude, seriously, especially .22, you really don't want to shoot off rounds right now. The ammo shortage is a major problem around the country, and it's going to get worse. If you aren't stockpiling ammo now, you're going to be screwed later.


If Obama tries any more gun-control moves, there will be more and more of a rush to buy whatever ammo is available and the supplies will get even tighter. Even police departments are having trouble getting ammo.



Prices on .22 are up 600 percent since just six months ago. 500-round bulk packs that sold for less than $20 six months ago are being snapped up for more than $100 on tons of different ammo websites. You really, really need to stock up as much as you can, while you can.

My response

You can live life in fear or just think rationally. I can still bulk packs and other packs reasonably. Some gun stores are not trying to take advantage of the situation

his

I've been going to Walmart at 5 a.m. to get ammo because that's been the only time they've had it on the shelf. It's getting bought up as soon as it's put on the shelf.


I'm not living my life in fear, I'm looking at simple supply and demand.



The supply is almost nil right now.

my response

My last brick of 500 I bought was 35 dollars. I can still get plenty of 357 also.

That brick of 500 is still almost double in price over six months ago.

Actually, it was 30. My brick of 555 was 28. My 375 cci bulk was 28. All bought in the last three months.

Well, I was going by the prices at Walmart six months ago, the last time I was able to find .22 at a decent price. The shortages aren't going to get better anytime soon. Stocking up and KEEPING a stockpile while you can is the only sensible route right now.


Trust me on this, dude, if you don't build up a decent reserve supply now, i.e., not shoot it off, you might not be able to find it when you need it in the near future. I'm seeing this ammo shortage several times a week at several different Walmarts.

See, that is what some people think. As long as nothing changes gun policy wise (as much as Obama wants to, he can't do too much without Congress and if he does too much on his own power, he will start getting heat from the majority of congress who do not support more gun control) I see it getting better. Much like the big AR rush, people bought these guns at a higher price and surprise, an AWB did not pass and more then likely won't. Now they are losing money. I won't over spend for ammo, but I didn't have guns before last year, if I can't shoot for a short amount of time (I do not see a shortage). Walmart is not a good judgment. My friends gun shop gets ammo in weekly (22 even). His suppliers take care of him. He even got AR's when no one else could at the normal price.

There was more, but I had to leave the convo due to work stuff.



Frankly, ammo shortage doesn't bother me now. If it is more then $2 for a normal pack of 50 or more then $10 of a bulk pack, I don't buy it. I use my ammo for recreational uses as I don't carry yet. I have yet to dip into my shotgun ammo and I can still get more of that at Walmart.



Obama can say anything he wants, but there is a backlash to every action even if it isn't him, it will be his party. Support for gun control is falling faster and faster. If they try to reintroduce gun control, it will probably fail more.

 

[jdmack79]

I disagree with your friend. If you are willing to pay higher prices, ammo is still available. Many of us have enough ammo stockpiled that we could shoot for years at the same rate and still have some left over.

It sounds to me like your friend is one of two things:

1. stupid for not stocking up while ammo was on the shelf
2. too cheap to buy ammo at current prices

 

[terrehautian]

I won't buy ammo at crazy prices, but I am willing to accept $30 for a brick of 22 right now so I can "pay to play". I been able to find 357 and 9mm at normal prices most of the time.

 

[pokersamurai]

I was told by a friend that I should be stock piling ammo and not shooting it

It's sad that this has become a more and more common thread. Whatever happend to the days where I could shoot my ammo without worrying about if I will be able to get more?

I want the good ol' days back.

 

[Burnsy]

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I responded saying I am getting more 22 this week and he replied back.





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There was more, but I had to leave the convo due to work stuff.



Frankly, ammo shortage doesn't bother me now. If it is more then $2 for a normal pack of 50 or more then $10 of a bulk pack, I don't buy it. I use my ammo for recreational uses as I don't carry yet. I have yet to dip into my shotgun ammo and I can still get more of that at Walmart.



Obama can say anything he wants, but there is a backlash to every action even if it isn't him, it will be his party. Support for gun control is falling faster and faster. If they try to reintroduce gun control, it will probably fail more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlR5eG9zP4

 

[rotortech]

It is interesting that people confuse excessive demand with an ammo shortage. The ones who worry the most about ammo supplies seem to be the folks buying and hording everything on the shelf. The companies that make ammo and other gun related products are working more now than ever. The supply will catch up with the demand.

Like many INGO members, I long for the day when I can stroll into Walmart and buy what I want right off the shelf.

 

[lovemachine]

I won't buy ammo at crazy prices, but I am willing to accept $30 for a brick of 22 right now so I can "pay to play". I been able to find 357 and 9mm at normal prices most of the time.

Where are you able to find 9mm at? I haven't seen any in stock for a very long time.

 

[Sgtusmc]

Decide on an amount you can be comfortable with, then stop buying and shooting once you reach that amount. Until we get people to stop the frenzy so supply can catch up, people will keep buying as long as it seems that supply can't keep up with demand.

 

[Flinttim]

I get this mental image of folks sitting in a room surrounded by cases of ammo holding a gun they no longer know how to load (if they ever did) because they haven't shot the damn thing in over two years. Probably caressing the bricks of ammo softly whispering "My Precious". Sorry, edit "Dude, My Precious"

 

[Sgtusmc]

I get this mental image of folks sitting in a room surrounded by cases of ammo holding a gun they no longer know how to load (if they ever did) because they haven't shot the damn thing in over two years. Probably caressing the bricks of ammo softly whispering "My Precious". Sorry, edit "Dude, My Precious"

Funny. I've made somewhat of the same comment before about some guys having a throne made of ammo. I was then asked what my definition of hoarding is apparently by people who had thrones of ammo.

There's only going to be so many bullets you can fire and reload in some kind of unfortunate exchange.

 

[avboiler11]

Shortage does not equal scarcity.

 

[Trooper]

Buy cheap, stockpile, learn to reload (then buy components).

Frankly the goal is to have about 2.5 million rounds of ammo per person.

 

[Scutter01]

You think $30 for a 550 brick of .22LR is a reasonable price?

 

[mulsas]

This whole thing reminds me of the marshmellow test done on kids. Put a marshmellow in front of them. If they can not eat it for 5 minutes, they will get two. If they can't wait and eat the first, they don't get any more. It is a test in delayed gratification, patience, etc. Alot of consumers could learn a lesson from that. If more people would pass on the $60 bricks of 22lr, this would probably get over with quicker.

Of course, shooting is more fun than eating marshmellows...

 

[tgmorris99]

You think $30 for a 550 brick of .22LR is a reasonable price?

For a 550 brick of Federal back 18 months ago I was paying $18.97 -that's 3.5 cents/rd instead of the 5.5 cents/rd today. So if it's compared to the pre madness price, no, it's not a good deal. However it's still 1/10th the cost of shooting .223 so if it allows me to practice, then, all things considered, it's still a good deal by today's prices/standards.

Would I buy it just to add to my existing stock? Only if I was at a point that I needed it.

 

[CitiusFortius]

It is interesting that people confuse excessive demand with an ammo shortage. The ones who worry the most about ammo supplies seem to be the folks buying and hording everything on the shelf. The companies that make ammo and other gun related products are working more now than ever. The supply will catch up with the demand.

Like many INGO members, I long for the day when I can stroll into Walmart and buy what I want right off the shelf.

but...but....I thought it was the government creating the shortage?

 

[Arthur Dent]

A large part of the problem is people buying ammo and flipping it on sites like gunbroker. People keep paying their stupid prices so those same people keep buying and flipping like crazy. Quit buying from them with their stupid prices, let them sit on it until the end of time. Prices and supply will come back once people wise up.

 

[merotek]

What good is all that ammo if you don't practice and can't hit what your shooting at?


SHOOT IT UP! just make sure you don't shoot it ALL up

 

[Scutter01]

For a 550 brick of Federal back 18 months ago I was paying $18.97 -that's 3.5 cents/rd instead of the 5.5 cents/rd today. So if it's compared to the pre madness price, no, it's not a good deal. However it's still 1/10th the cost of shooting .223 so if it allows me to practice, then, all things considered, it's still a good deal by today's prices/standards.

Would I buy it just to add to my existing stock? Only if I was at a point that I needed it.

And two years ago, it was $14. Six months before that, it was $12. People keep saying "As soon as the panic subsides, prices will come down."

 

[rockhopper46038]

I think it's funny that your name, apparently, is "dude".