-
Be sure to read this post! Beware of scammers. https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/classifieds-new-online-payment-guidelines-rules-paypal-venmo-zelle-etc.511734/
Choose only one caliber for suppression
- Thread starter HamYankee
- Start date
-
- Tags
- suppressors
The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana
Member Benefits:
Fewer Ads! Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas View up to date on firearm-related events Share photos & video with other members ...and so much more!
Member Benefits:
roadrunner681
Expert
458 socom, hard to argue with 600 grains of lead.
This.
In my experience, no. Even though fired from the same platform (let's say an AR15), both the mechanics and the downrange effects are dramatically different. I've fired subsonic rounds in the 5.56 and these used a ridiculously elongated lead bullet weighing in around 90-110 grains. We had little luck achieving stabilized flight, instead seeing keyholing begin at very close range. They may be okay for shooting inside a house or something but at 100 meters? Lost cause.
The .300 Blackout uses a 220 grain bullet in the loading I've tried and while it didn't produce match-grade accuracy, I found it to be more than acceptable for general carbine/PDW work. The .22LR is an incredibly inviting choice for this poll and I almost voted that way. In the end however, if I can only have one, it will be something reloadable, incredibly lethal, and something available in a proven carbine/PDW platform. The Blackout meets those criteria, IMHO.
I remember reading a couple of years ago about 6.5 Grendel. It seemed like the ideal bullet. It sounds like 300blk is gaining steam. I've never noticed 300 blk on the shelves. Sounds like it is becoming more mainstream now. Sounds pretty interesting.
Last edited:
Yes 22LR will dirty up a 556 can. 22LR is about the dirtiest ammo out there and it builds up carbon and a ceramic made from carbon and the primer residue of ground glass. It makes a pretty tough crust on the blast baffle which the .223 blast can knock off. So from the standpoint of cleanup the good news is that the heavy blast from the rifle round will break it up (normally). The bad news is that as it gets blasted around inside the can it can deflect the high velocity bullet of the 223 into a baffle causing damage to the can. If you injure an endcap its not a big deal but damage the tube and its not always repairable. After many years of making and repairing suppressors I've seen the biggest problem being exactly this. Use a 22LR in your rifle cal cans and chances of damage to the can are pretty high.
As for which round is best for suppression its all dependent on what you're doing. A .22LR is great suppressed but not if you're hunting deer. A 458 Socom suppressed and loaded subsonic is a great deer round but not so much for hunting bunnies (if you want anything left to eat). I kind of like the 338BR myself. Its a 300gr Sierra Matchking bullet fired subsonic out of a case based on the 1.5" long 308. I use 6mm BR cases necked up to 338 or 7mmBR as well. It is so far the quietest suppressed rifle I've fired and hard hitting with that 300gr slug. The 510 whisper is great fun because you can fire 650gr 50 BMG slugs which allows the use of tracers, incindierys and other "active" bullets that show you some effect on impact or in flight. You can also fire the 700-800gr Hornady AMAX bullets very accurately or go for the lower end with 300gr soft points. You can load sub or supersonic and suppressed is the whole point. So in my opinion there are too many qualifiers to give one answer
Frank
As for which round is best for suppression its all dependent on what you're doing. A .22LR is great suppressed but not if you're hunting deer. A 458 Socom suppressed and loaded subsonic is a great deer round but not so much for hunting bunnies (if you want anything left to eat). I kind of like the 338BR myself. Its a 300gr Sierra Matchking bullet fired subsonic out of a case based on the 1.5" long 308. I use 6mm BR cases necked up to 338 or 7mmBR as well. It is so far the quietest suppressed rifle I've fired and hard hitting with that 300gr slug. The 510 whisper is great fun because you can fire 650gr 50 BMG slugs which allows the use of tracers, incindierys and other "active" bullets that show you some effect on impact or in flight. You can also fire the 700-800gr Hornady AMAX bullets very accurately or go for the lower end with 300gr soft points. You can load sub or supersonic and suppressed is the whole point. So in my opinion there are too many qualifiers to give one answer
Frank
I picked 9mm, for the same reasons it was my first silencer.
w/ a 9mm can I could use it on pistols and a 9mm carbine. It's much quieter than the rifle calibers, and beneficial for defensive use (which is where .22 falls short), and while not as quiet as a .22 it is hearing safe. A lot of bang for the buck (or a lot of bang supression for the buck).
-rvb
w/ a 9mm can I could use it on pistols and a 9mm carbine. It's much quieter than the rifle calibers, and beneficial for defensive use (which is where .22 falls short), and while not as quiet as a .22 it is hearing safe. A lot of bang for the buck (or a lot of bang supression for the buck).
-rvb
I have 22lr,9mm and 300 blk
my choice if I had to pick only 1
1st would be 22LR
very close second would be 9mm (exp since I can reload them and the shortage of good 22lr)
the 300 blk would be at the bottom of the list I'd put anything ahead of it !!!!
IMO 300BLK is just to much hype doesent deliver the claims
yes it can be both super/sub sonic yes it works in short bbls BUT !!! it doesnt work well in short bbls suppressed
I' tried several 8-10.5 " bbls with dozens of loads and factory loads nothing impressed me
now with 16 " bbl subs can be very quiet
I would like to try a 458 socom but after the $$$$$ I wasted in trying to get the 300 BLK to do what they claimed
I"d have to hear and fire one first !
my choice if I had to pick only 1
1st would be 22LR
very close second would be 9mm (exp since I can reload them and the shortage of good 22lr)
the 300 blk would be at the bottom of the list I'd put anything ahead of it !!!!
IMO 300BLK is just to much hype doesent deliver the claims
yes it can be both super/sub sonic yes it works in short bbls BUT !!! it doesnt work well in short bbls suppressed
I' tried several 8-10.5 " bbls with dozens of loads and factory loads nothing impressed me
now with 16 " bbl subs can be very quiet
I would like to try a 458 socom but after the $$$$$ I wasted in trying to get the 300 BLK to do what they claimed
I"d have to hear and fire one first !
Last edited:
roadrunner681
Expert
6.5 Grendel is more for longer ranges any of the 6.5s are awesome long range cartridges but the 6.5 Grendel fits in a ar 15 and they do shoot really good if you can afford the gun and the ammo.
Site Supporter
Latest posts
-
The Funny Picture/Video Thread, 15th Edition: Be more like Coleman.- Latest: BehindBlueI's
-
-
