Mini Classifieds Rant

[Jeremy1066]

Ok, this is a small rant about something I've seen in the classifieds, but not the typical "price gouging" rant that you expected.

"For sale: never fired (zero round count) ABC pistol that has been carried in an XYZ holster for about a month."

Do people really carry a pistol that they have never fired?
Rant over. Carry on.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Only morons or liars would post that statement.

I'll let them decide which derogatory term applies to them.

 

[chezuki]

I'll call this one "parallel think" since it sounds nicer than dupe.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/337898-carried-but-never-shot.html

 

[Jeremy1066]

I'll call this one "parallel think" since it sounds nicer than dupe.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/337898-carried-but-never-shot.html

Yep. I think it was the same add that spurred the "parallel" thread and the seller offered an explanation in that thread.

 

[Scutter01]

I always put "2,000,000 rounds down the barrel". That way, when they see the pistol they're all like "Holy cow, dude, you took really good care of this thing! Like, almost unbelievably good care. Almost...suspiciously good care... wait a minute..." But by then, I've already gotten a few miles down the road with their money and I've already switched my license plates.

 

[BigRed3588]

Only morons or liars would post that statement.

I'll let them decide which derogatory term applies to them.

I'd probably put my money on morons. Over the past year or so i've been seeing a lot of concerning things at ranges/gun stores/out in public. It seems like there are a lot of people using and carrying firearms that don't know what the hell they're doing. Case in point, I noticed a guy carrying two FNH .40s in a shoulder holster. We got to talking, and it turns out he hadn't fired either weapon, and both were right handed guns. Then, about a week later, I was in a tattoo parlor and one of the customers was toting around a 1911, cocked and locked, in a holster with no manner of hammer retention. Naturally, I asked his artists to point his chair away from the booth where I was having my work done.

 

[Harleyrider_50]

I'd probably put my money on morons. Over the past year or so i've been seeing a lot of concerning things at ranges/gun stores/out in public. It seems like there are a lot of people using and carrying firearms that don't know what the hell they're doing. Case in point, I noticed a guy carrying two FNH .40s in a shoulder holster. We got to talking, and it turns out he hadn't fired either weapon, and both were right handed guns. Then, about a week later, I was in a tattoo parlor and one of the customers was toting around a 1911, cocked and locked, in a holster with no manner of hammer retention. Naturally, I asked his artists to point his chair away from the booth where I was having my work done.

.......Well at's where you ain' smart's ya think.............or know anythin' bout 1911's...........it's design'd ta carry at'a way....if it worth a shizz, it don't NEED....no hammer retention......

 

[NHT3]

It's sad to say but some people consider themselves protected if they have a loaded firearm, even if they have never fired it. I tell people in my classes that if they buy a pistol and just load it and put it "under the pillow" they are much more of a danger to themselves that they would be to an intruder. I've also personally encountered (recently) a NIB pistol that would not function.
Test your firearm and train with it if you are interested in protecting you and yours.

[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member[/FONT][FONT=&amp]-- [/FONT]NRA Basic pistol instructor
Certified Glock armorer—GSSF Member

1911, M&P & Ruger MK III Mechanic

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

I'd probably put my money on morons. Over the past year or so i've been seeing a lot of concerning things at ranges/gun stores/out in public. It seems like there are a lot of people using and carrying firearms that don't know what the hell they're doing. Case in point, I noticed a guy carrying two FNH .40s in a shoulder holster. We got to talking, and it turns out he hadn't fired either weapon, and both were right handed guns. Then, about a week later, I was in a tattoo parlor and one of the customers was toting around a 1911, cocked and locked, in a holster with no manner of hammer retention. Naturally, I asked his artists to point his chair away from the booth where I was having my work done.

Hammer retention? Not carrying cocked and locked would make me worried more for that person's self defense ability.

 

[Jeremy1066]

My carry pistols are all Glocks so there's no need to run them first.

 

[BigRed3588]

Hammer retention? Not carrying cocked and locked would make me worried more for that person's self defense ability.

To each his own I guess. Personally, I carry in holsters with a thumb break on the off chance that the hammer does drop and the safeties malfunction. I realize the likelihood of both safeties on the 1911 failing simultaneously isn't very high, but stranger things have happened. I imagine most people that accidentally shoot themselves didn't expect their gun to go off...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

My carry pistols are all Glocks so there's no need to run them first.

Nah...that's just your sense of self-preservation kicking in.

 

[walleyepw]

Carry a gun that you never shot? Is that gun....excuse me it sounds like your purse just fell off your shoulder and scratched your shoes.

 

[nakinate]

To each his own I guess. Personally, I carry in holsters with a thumb break on the off chance that the hammer does drop and the safeties malfunction. I realize the likelihood of both safeties on the 1911 failing simultaneously isn't very high, but stranger things have happened. I imagine most people that accidentally shoot themselves had their finger on the trigger.

FIFY

 

[cbseniour]

When I buy a new pistol I carry it right to the range.

 

[Combsie]

Yep. I think it was the same add that spurred the "parallel" thread and the seller offered an explanation in that thread.

After reading through that thread you still decided on starting a similar one? By no means was that an explanation, more so a thorough statement as I don't need to explain myself to anyone on the "interwebz" on my personal way of making sure a new gun/holster is safe to carry while having a snap cap in it. If my way of doing things offends you or any other "gun guru", oh well.

 

[AA&E]

To each his own I guess. Personally, I carry in holsters with a thumb break on the off chance that the hammer does drop and the safeties malfunction. I realize the likelihood of both safeties on the 1911 failing simultaneously isn't very high, but stranger things have happened. I imagine most people that accidentally shoot themselves didn't expect their gun to go off...

This weapon was engineered specifically to prevent such conditions from occuring. If you understood the design and the independent nature of the safety features, you'd understand the reason why this weapon is carried cocked and locked. The only chance of this being an issue in my opinion, would be due to components that become out of manufacturer specifications due to attempted service by untrained persons, or possibly wear well beyond the norm. The level of wear would be extreme, obvious, and beyond what a person would reasonably consider a reliable self defense weapon. I'd suggest stranger things have not happened, and instances where people accidently shoot themselves its not caused by a malfunctioning safety on a 1911.

 

[nakinate]

To each his own I guess. Personally, I carry in holsters with a thumb break on the off chance that the hammer does drop and the safeties malfunction. I realize the likelihood of both safeties on the 1911 failing simultaneously isn't very high, but stranger things have happened. I imagine most people that accidentally shoot themselves didn't expect their gun to go off...

This weapon was engineered specifically to prevent such conditions from occuring. If you understood the design and the independent nature of the safety features, you'd understand the reason why this weapon is carried cocked and locked. The only chance of this being an issue in my opinion, would be due to components that become out of manufacturer specifications due to attempted service by untrained persons, or possibly wear well beyond the norm. The level of wear would be extreme, obvious, and beyond what a person would reasonably consider a reliable self defense weapon. I'd suggest stranger things have not happened, and instances where people accidently shoot themselves its not caused by a malfunctioning safety on a 1911.

AA&E is correct. Not saying it's impossible to have a malfunction, but more often than not it is negligence on the part of the gun owner. Here's a fun fact, no one has shot them self with a gun if they weren't pointing it at themselves or in an unsafe direction. I suggest you look up the four rules of gun safety and memorize them. All guns are always loaded...so don't point it at yourself or you could get shot.

 

[CitiusFortius]

When I buy a new pistol I carry it right to the range.

Really? I carry it right to the car. *rimshot*

 

[nakinate]