Mike Pence Should Step Down.

[level.eleven]

After the debacle on the Sunday morning circuit, losing his cool today, and his inability to say that discrimination is wrong, Mike Pence needs to do the IN GOP, as well as the national GOP a favor, and step aside. The damage is done. The complete lack of optics doing this the week an event larger than the Super Bowl is in town displays terrible leadership. Inviting known hate groups to the private, no press, invitation only bill signing was over the top.

The VP of VisitIndy was on the radio this afternoon discussing the millions of dollars Pence has cost hard working Hoosier families.

It is time for the real leaders in the IN GOP to step forward and the suffering. This will spill into 2016 presidential elections so I would wager state leaders could easily get the backing of prominent national GOP leaders.

 

[PistolBob]

This isn't Mike Pence's fault. he was in the stew no matter which way he went. I say re-elect the guy, he's a tough bastich.

 

[miguel]

By Indiana law, if he did, who would step in? Lt. Governor?

 

[MisterChester]

He's definitely a poor leader. I couldn't help but sigh when he was on national TV and couldn't answer with a simple yes or no. You are a governor for crying out loud. His deflections made his intentions clear to me at least.

 

[phylodog]

Mike Pence didn't write the legislation

 

[Lucas156]

Obama should step down if any elected person in this country does. I support pence and it is not discrimination it is forcing your opinion on someone else if you want to FORCE a private business to provide a service. THAT is socialism-not discrimination

 

[MisterChester]

Mike Pence didn't write the legislation

That doesn't mean he's immune from blame. He did sign it after all. It doesn't mean he's unable to gauge the potential backlash too.

 

[flightsimmer]

After the debacle on the Sunday morning circuit, losing his cool today, and his inability to say that discrimination is wrong, Mike Pence needs to do the IN GOP, as well as the national GOP a favor, and step aside. The damage is done. The complete lack of optics doing this the week an event larger than the Super Bowl is in town displays terrible leadership. Inviting known hate groups to the private, no press, invitation only bill signing was over the top.

The VP of VisitIndy was on the radio this afternoon discussing the millions of dollars Pence has cost hard working Hoosier families.

It is time for the real leaders in the IN GOP to step forward and the suffering. This will spill into 2016 presidential elections so I would wager state leaders could easily get the backing of prominent national GOP leaders.

BS.

 

[Lucas156]

Whatever this is just a media circus. This is a non issue. Obama gets a slide but if you're a white male governor they're all over your ass for the same thing the give every other state a pass on. This thread and topic is a complete joke but I see the sheeple went along because they don't know how to read and just go off what the tv says. Dumbasses

 

[SkinNFluff]

it is not discrimination it is forcing your opinion on someone else if you want to FORCE a private business to provide a service.

QFT ^^^This^^^

 

[level.eleven]

He's definitely a poor leader. I couldn't help but sigh when he was on national TV and couldn't answer with a simple yes or no. You are a governor for crying out loud. His deflections made his intentions clear to me at least.

Even worse is when a leader blames the free press. Watch him completely lose his cool today after he exhausted his talking points and prepared remarks. He is unwilling to own it. He is appealing to conspiracy theory. Good grief.

Luckily we have common sense GOP leaders like Ballard speaking out against this abomination.

Indiana is the national laughing stock. This weekend, Indy lucked into the perfect storm. A Final Four with 3 regional teams, 2 of which are border states. Yet when the hundreds of thousands sit in resturant lounges and bars the topic of discussion will be how Indiana hates gays. They will see the protests. They will read local news.

Awful leadership. If the GOP wants to save any face Mike Pence must step down.

 

[buckwacker]

After the debacle on the Sunday morning circuit, losing his cool today, and his inability to say that discrimination is wrong, Mike Pence needs to do the IN GOP, as well as the national GOP a favor, and step aside. The damage is done. The complete lack of optics doing this the week an event larger than the Super Bowl is in town displays terrible leadership. Inviting known hate groups to the private, no press, invitation only bill signing was over the top.

The VP of VisitIndy was on the radio this afternoon discussing the millions of dollars Pence has cost hard working Hoosier families.

It is time for the real leaders in the IN GOP to step forward and the suffering. This will spill into 2016 presidential elections so I would wager state leaders could easily get the backing of prominent national GOP leaders.

Wishful thinking? Maybe they could just put democrats in leadership posts to placate the frilly social fascists.
And why do hate Christians so much. That's very bigoted of you.
Also this hubbub will be gone in a couple of weeks and the schizophrenic lefty press will be on to spread the next "hands up, don't shoot" or "Indiana hates gays" lie to whip up the ignorant masses.

He's definitely a poor leader. I couldn't help but sigh when he was on national TV and couldn't answer with a simple yes or no. You are a governor for crying out loud. His deflections made his intentions clear to me at least.

The question was gottcha quest from a lefty activist masquerading as an objective journalist. He knew what he was doing. Indiana does not recognize LBGT folks as a "special" class with "special" protections, but answering so would have thrown fuel on the arsonists fire, and he knew that. Yeah, he is dumb isn't he.

 

[SmileDocHill]

I've said it many times on FB (despite my better judgement) and I'll say it again here..."You start a business, and I'll tell you how to run it." Now, how does that make you feel? This law takes strides to make this situation less possible. It is that simple.

 

[TheWabbit]

Do you want to interject any more Democrat talking points into your argument? Is everything "comon sense" now? Where might we have heard that term before?

We don't have a free press. The only people that give a crap about this are the Democrats and the media trying to keep Hillary's email server and the failed Iranian negotiations off the front page.

 

[mrjarrell]

Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act Allows Private Businesses to Discriminate Against Employees Based on Sexual Orientation ? The Atlantic

Not sure his stepping down would lead to better leadership, (they really don't pick the Lt. governor for their leadership skills), but it would go a long way towards easing the embarrassment he, along with the legislature and Eric Miller and crew, have caused this state. Not going to happen, though. He, and his fellow gop-ers, don't give a damn what the people of this state or any other think. They only care what the narrow base thinks, and that's who this was crafted for and by. It's not the same as the federal version or those of other states. It was crafted with the intent to allow discrimination, (Eric Miller and his cronies have just about said as much).

 

[HoughMade]

...Along with 19 other governors and the President who has not spearheaded repeal of the federal RFRA?

 

[mrjarrell]

...Along with 19 other governors and the President who has not spearheaded repeal of the federal RFRA?

Indiana's version is not the same as those other versions. We have added language in ours that is not present in the federal or other states, (except for Texas in one case).

 

[KG1]

Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act Allows Private Businesses to Discriminate Against Employees Based on Sexual Orientation ? The Atlantic

Not sure his stepping down would lead to better leadership, (they really don't pick the Lt. governor for their leadership skills), but it would go a long way towards easing the embarrassment he, along with the legislature and Eric Miller and crew, have caused this state. Not going to happen, though. He, and his fellow gop-ers, don't give a damn what the people of this state or any other think. They only care what the narrow base thinks, and that's who this was crafted for and by. It's not the same as the federal version or those of other states. It was crafted with the intent to allow discrimination, (Eric Miller and his cronies have just about said as much).

Cite quotes please.

 

[level.eleven]

Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act Allows Private Businesses to Discriminate Against Employees Based on Sexual Orientation ? The Atlantic

Not sure his stepping down would lead to better leadership, (they really don't pick the Lt. governor for their leadership skills), but it would go a long way towards easing the embarrassment he, along with the legislature and Eric Miller and crew, have caused this state. Not going to happen, though. He, and his fellow gop-ers, don't give a damn what the people of this state or any other think. They only care what the narrow base thinks, and that's who this was crafted for and by. It's not the same as the federal version or those of other states. It was crafted with the intent to allow discrimination, (Eric Miller and his cronies have just about said as much).

I wish we could post the quotes from the lobbyists and firms that crafted this legislation. The ones that were invited to the private, no press, religious, GOP only, bill signing. Alas, it would be against forum rules. But of course, it isn't about being born gay and some books. Just ask.

I was thinking more long term for the GOP. This is a national event. This is the GOP. The optics are atrocious and will cost votes.

 

[MAJB Retired]

Do you want to interject any more Democrat talking points into your argument? Is everything "comon sense" now? Where might we have heard that term before?

We don't have a free press. The only people that give a crap about this are the Democrats and the media trying to keep Hillary's email server and the failed Iranian negotiations off the front page.

And that is the real message...change the subject. Bill did it and Obama did it, so the liberals are trying to do it to save Hillary for herself.