Protesters blocking roadways

[Expat]

Did the day of rage happen today? (Other than in Turkey, that is?)

I have felt aggravated a few times... not really rage level.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I have felt aggravated a few times... not really rage level.

You're really going to have to step that up some.

 

[Expat]

I am just not sure Anonymous has that much sway with the average BLMer...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I am just not sure Anonymous has that much sway with the average BLMer...

Apparently.

 

[Gary119]

Not trying to pick on you Gary, but lets unpack this a little bit. Be honest, if they wanted to move out of the hard life and into a house next to you, would you welcome them?

One major problem with getting out is having some place to go

If they have the desire/drive to get out why wouldn't I welcome them?

To be honest I have great neighbors. It's not where they live it's the people. They work for what they have. They take care of their children. Almost any one of them will give you the shirt off their back and we take care of each other. Have you ever traveled the back roads in southern Indiana? You will find people that are rich, to people that are dirt poor. Most are great people.

 

[churchmouse]

If they have the desire/drive to get out why wouldn't I welcome them?

To be honest I have great neighbors. It's not where they live it's the people. They work for what they have. They take care of their children. Almost any one of them will give you the shirt off their back and we take care of each other. Have you ever traveled the back roads in southern Indiana? You will find people that are rich, to people that are dirt poor. Most are great people.

That is not exactly what he was asking you.
I see all of your points and do understand what you are conveying but would you want these folks right next door as they figure out how to live like you do.

 

[Gary119]

That is not exactly what he was asking you.
I see all of your points and do understand what you are conveying but would you want these folks right next door as they figure out how to live like you do.

Define "These Folks"

 

[churchmouse]

Define "These Folks"

The very folks everyone is speaking of. The ones you say should be escaping to the rural areas.
Those folks. The ones needing some place to go.
I believe that is what Bug was asking.

 

[Gary119]

They don't have to "live like me"

If "those folks" work hard enough to "get out" why in world would I not want them to live out here? (Now keep in mind out here we don't live wall to wall.)

Wasn't my original post about.... These kids never get to be free, walk in the woods, see the beauty of the trees, flowers, animals. Their back yard is concrete and dumpsters.

If the people are trying and need a helping hand I would HELP them get out here!

 

[BugI02]

If they have the desire/drive to get out why wouldn't I welcome them? NIMBY would come to mind as a possibility

To be honest I have great neighbors. It's not where they live it's the people. They work for what they have. They take care of their children. Almost any one of them will give you the shirt off their back and we take care of each other. Have you ever traveled the back roads in southern Indiana? You will find people that are rich, to people that are dirt poor. Most are great people.

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[chipbennett]

What exactly, are you thinking is "appropriate force" to employ upon people blocking a roadway? Let's not beat around the bush, you said "protesters blocking the roadway," not protesters beating on your vehicle, not protesters trying to gain entry into your vehicle, but people BLOCKING a roadway.... and now we're asking what type of force would be appropriate to use upon these people. What type of force can you use? None.... you can't shoot them, you can't run them over, can't spit on them, you can't throw a can of coke at them, and you can't beat them up.

If one is being criminally confined, then one is being subjected to a felony. If one is being subjected to a felony, then one has the lawful right to use deadly force in self-defense. Can drivers run over the "protesters"? No. Can they pull guns on them to force them to cease their felonious actions? Yes, and they should start doing so.

I get that there a lot of people that would love to harm to protesters, and typically, it isn't because they're blocking a road, but rather because they disagree with the group protesting... As I doubt you would be asking what type of harm you could do to a bunch of anti-HRC supporters blocking a roadway. In any case, call the police, highway patrol, import ChiPs, and deal with it until they arrive and solve the issue.

This is pure projection. It matters not what the "protesters" are protesting. They are by definition not peacably protesting, because their actions are unlawful. Thus, their status as "protesters" is moot. They are criminals, violating the civil rights of mass numbers of law-abiding citizens.

 

[chipbennett]

I have to wonder how that would be legal. I was always told all through driving school, and commercial driving school that pedestrians always have rightaway regardless of where they may be.

Rolling your car up against people standing in the road and continuing to roll forward is not yielding. Would not the protesters be in the right to defend themselves in such situation?

Jaywalkers and people intentionally blocking the roadway are not "pedestrians".

 

[BehindBlueI's]

If one is being subjected to a felony, then one has the lawful right to use deadly force in self-defense.

Nope.

Jaywalkers and people intentionally blocking the roadway are not "pedestrians".

Also nope.

 

[actaeon277]

Aren't "pedestrians" banned from highways?

 

[chipbennett]

Nope.

Semantics. Reasonable belief of forcible felony. I think being subjected to a felony (criminal confinement) by hundreds of people intentionally surrounding your vehicle and intentionally preventing your lawful travel is grounds for reasonable belief of being subjected to a forcible felony.

Also nope.

More semantics:

IC 9-21-17-7Crossing roadway at point not marked as a crosswalk; yield ofright-of-way to trafficSec. 7. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point other thanwithin a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at anintersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon theroadway.

 

[j706]

That type of stuff like blocking roads is pretty low down crap. Whatever happened to trucks with water cannons and those high tec sound devices ect? IMO they need to decisively shut crap like that down sending a message of you may do it but it is gonna be very uncomfortable. Take the fun right out of it.

 

[voidsherpa]

Whatever happened to trucks with water cannons...

Oh the politically correct media would love that hahahahha

 

[j706]

Oh the politically correct media would love that hahahahha

So would I!!

 

[Kutnupe14]

Nope.Also nope.

Yeah Chip, I'm going to have to add to BBIs nopes.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Semantics. Reasonable belief of forcible felony. I think being subjected to a felony (criminal confinement) by hundreds of people intentionally surrounding your vehicle and intentionally preventing your lawful travel is grounds for reasonable belief of being subjected to a forcible felony.



More semantics:

IC 9-21-17-7Crossing roadway at point not marked as a crosswalk; yield ofright-of-way to trafficSec. 7. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point other thanwithin a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at anintersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon theroadway.

Lol, you sly dog....I see you slipped in that "surroundings your vehicle" part. One does not have surround your vehicle to be blocking the roadway.