House Passes the Healtcare Bill

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  • JD31

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    Passing the bill was bad. Posting the Pelosi picture was just downright unnecessary. (Darn near lost my lunch!!!!)

    Did anyone hear Wrangle's answer to the Republican who asked if he could guarantee that the "No Money for Abortion" Amendment would be included in the final bill? He showed his true colors by telling him basically that he couldn't guarantee any language that would be in the final bill, and that asking him to guarantee it was tantamount to some major ethic violation. These people will put whatever they want in the the final compromise bill and hope that the changes fly under the radar.

    The Dems just don't care about anything but their agenda and securing the votes of non-working or illegals to maintain their power.
     

    SavageEagle

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    What makes you guys think that this bill won't pass the Senate? It has just as much a chance there as it did in the House.

    And do you guys REALLY think that Republicans will be ANY better? Do you REALLY think they are going to start repealing laws and giving us our Liberties back?

    Please....
     

    Hammer

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    For those of you that think Bayh will vote no....read my email to him and his canned response back.

    Mr. Bayh
    I have been a resident of Indiana for many years, and have been gainfully employed the whole time. I only have a high school education and have never been on welfare, food stamps or any other assistance programs. Some may say that I am lucky to be able to say this with honesty. I can proudly say this because I am not a lazy person and take care of me and my daughter. Yes I have changed jobs, but I went out and looked for another one, it may not have been doing what I wanted to do or made the wages I wanted to, but I have always had gainful employment. Now to my point, why must I pay for the lazy people in this state and this country's health care? If I can provide for my family, why cant they do it? I will tell you why, because they are living on the system politicians have created for them and actually reward people for doing nothing and stifle prosperity for working people. This Health care bill in my opinion is just another way for the government to take more control where they have no business. I am sorry that kids are sick and their parents will not provide for them. But why should my daughter suffer because I am taxed to death and cannot afford to get her the things she needs. I hope you actually read the 1990 pages of this new TAX on hard working people to support the lazy and vote no and do what you can to get health care out of government hands.

    His response.

    Thank you for contacting me regarding health care reform. I appreciate hearing your thoughts and understand your concerns. The rising cost of health care and the growing number of uninsured Americans has highlighted the critical need for health care reform. Many individuals and families are unable to receive vital health services under the structure of the current system. I receive letters from constituents on a wide range of health care issues, such as prescription drug affordability, tax credits for health care expenses, and coverage of college students. Please know that I am aware of these challenges and committed to improving access to affordable health care and addressing the needs of those who are uninsured.
    Earlier this year, the Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 was enacted to insure 11 million more children. The legislation included pediatric quality provisions from the Children's Health Care Quality Act (S. 225) that I introduced to address the urgent need to resolve quality care issues widespread in children's health care practices and make publicly available information on the quality of health care provided to children. I have fought successfully for the return of over $150 million in promised federal funds to Indiana to finance health insurance for lower-income Hoosier children. Most recently, I voted for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which was enacted on February 17, 2009. Aimed at creating or saving 3.5 million good-paying jobs nationwide through 2010, the economic recovery package also provides Indiana with an estimated $1.4 billion in additional targeted federal matching funds to prevent Medicaid eligibility cuts and to maintain services.
    The economy is an important issue to Americans, and we cannot address the economy without talking about health care. A growing threat to our economy is the skyrocketing cost of health care. The U.S. system is the world's costliest; the country spends some $2.4 trillion a year on health care. An estimated 46 million people are uninsured, and many others lack adequate insurance. Businesses also find themselves in a challenging position to continue to provide health care insurance for their employees. Our priority should be to fix the system as we know it, to ensure that there is access to good, quality health care for Americans.
    While we are in the early stages of the debate on health care reform, there are many questions regarding the role of the private and public sector. Due to increasing co-pays, deductibles, and out-of-pocket costs, many are calling for insurance regulation. Advances in health information technology are also being discussed, as electronic medical records could significantly reduce administrative costs. However, there are serious privacy and security concerns. Accountability measures such as patient notifications and patient control of personal health information must be explored in order to ensure adequate privacy protections.

    As the debate unfolds, I support fiscally sound reform built on our current health care system that aims to provide Americans with affordable health care. Rest assured that I will keep your concerns in mind as the debate continues. I will continue to do my best to achieve solvent, bipartisan solutions that provide high-quality, affordable healthcare to as many Americans as possible.

    Again, thank you for contacting me. I hope the information I have provided has been helpful. My website, Senator Evan Bayh — Senator for Indiana: Home, can provide additional details about my work in the Senate, including legislation and state projects. You can also sign up for occasional email updates. I value your input and hope you will continue to keep me informed of the issues that matter to you.






    Office of Senator Evan Bayh
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    Russell 131
    Washington, D.C. 20510
    Apparently he cannot friggin read.
     

    JetGirl

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    Canned response. The hubster works at a place where all 3000 employees were encouraged to send a letter to him regarding the taxation of medical stuff...less than 10% did - but that's another rant.
    Hammer's letter and my hubster's letter hit completely different points and warranted a completely different answer.
    It's word for word identical.
     

    MTC

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    If you think this is bad, wait until you are forced to have an RFID chip implanted in order to receive healthcare.

    This is what I see as being the end game. Then they can track everyone, everywhere, anytime.

    An essential part of it, anyway.

    Hatch said that if Congress claimed the power to tell Americans what things they must buy there would be “no limit” to the power of the federal government over the lives of Americans.

    You're getting warmer.
     

    SavageEagle

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    An essential part of it, anyway.

    Hatch said that if Congress claimed the power to tell Americans what things they must buy there would be “no limit” to the power of the federal government over the lives of Americans.

    You're getting warmer.

    I hate to tell you, but they already force you to buy Car insurance. They force companies to buy all kinds of insurance depending on the business. In some states you MUST buy the Weather Alert radios.

    I'd say the governement is already forcing us to buy things. Whether we need them or not.
     

    Fletch

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    I hate to tell you, but they already force you to buy Car insurance. They force companies to buy all kinds of insurance depending on the business. In some states you MUST buy the Weather Alert radios.

    I'd say the governement is already forcing us to buy things. Whether we need them or not.

    You're forgetting the most obvious thing it forces us to buy: government itself.
     

    MTC

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    I hate to tell you, but they already force you to buy Car insurance. They force companies to buy all kinds of insurance depending on the business. In some states you MUST buy the Weather Alert radios.

    I'd say the governement is already forcing us to buy things. Whether we need them or not.

    :): Well I don't hate to tell you I'm nearly twice your age and am acutely aware of all this and more, and would appreciate it if you would adopt a slightly less condescending tone. You may never know how much we have in common.
     

    SavageEagle

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    :): Well I don't hate to tell you I'm nearly twice your age and am acutely aware of all this and more, and would appreciate it if you would adopt a slightly less condescending tone. You may never know how much we have in common.

    Well alrighty then! Didn't know I had a condescending tone. My apologies! But I'm right. Hatch just seems to think this is the start when it's actually just one more step. That's what I was meaning to sound like. MY BAD! :laugh: See, I guess I can make all kinda tones over the interwebz! :p
     
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