Active shooter at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas...

[2A_Tom]

Ma gun dung umaga.

 

[HoughMade]

I think he is getting into his litigator mode. It is taxing to defend the indefensible.

So you've seen my business card? "Defending the indefensible since 1998"

Anyhoo, it's not like we're going to reach a consensus here...other than, I suppose, that it's either + Brit or - Brit as there have been no alternatives suggested.

 

[jbombelli]

"Don't mention the war!!!!"

[video=youtube;yfl6Lu3xQW0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0[/video]

One of my favorite shows of all time. I'd rep you but our Bernie Sanders Rep System won't let me.

 

[Liberty1916]

Ahh yes. I don't know why Operation Market Garden comes to mind so readily when I think about the brilliance of British military strategy.....

....perhaps because it is so iconic?

I've tolerated your disrespect of British culture up until now, but you went a bridge too far with that comment.

 

[T.Lex]

I've tolerated your disrespect of British culture up until now, but you went a bridge too far with that comment.

[golf clap]

Well played, good sir. Well played.

 

[JAL]

Must have missed it again.

Perhaps we did.

Among their great contributions, we can certainly thank the British for the 2nd Amendment. Had it not been for the Battle of Lexington and Concord on 19 April 1775, with the British Army attempting to disarm the colonists by force, there might not have been one. They conducted house-by-house and nearby farm searches for arms and ammunition at bayonet point seizing all weapons, shot and powder they found. This occurred two months before the Continental Army was created on 14 June 1775 at the 2nd Continental Congress. While this wasn't the only instance, it is the most memorable, with later searches for arms more in the context of the war. They were a clear inspiration for a few other amendments in the Bill of Rights in addition to the 2nd one.

John

 

[rvb]

WTH was this thread about?

I've seen de-railments, but gheesh, this thread burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp...

-rvb

 

[Ruffnek]

WTH was this thread about?

I've seen de-railments, but gheesh, this thread burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp...

-rvb

I thought the same thing...

 

[bmbutch]

WTH was this thread about?

I've seen de-railments, but gheesh, this thread burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp...

-rvb

I was wondering how the flip we went from Las Vegas Shooting to Britain Sucks, No it doesn't, when I made it to your post. This one isn't just off the rails, it's going the wrong direction.

Back on track, doesn't seem odd we still don't know much about motive?
Was this psycho that good about not leaving a digital footprint?
Does his agenda not sit well with some powerful peeps?

I just find it hard to believe somebody with no bad history (that I've read about), suddenly flips the "nutter" switch, & decides to become a mass murderer.

 

[Alpo]

The thread derailed when the news cycle quit.

There is nothing new. Brits got bashed because they continue to tsk, tsk our rights as if their opinion should be given weight by a colony that threw them out.

 

[Woobie]

WTH was this thread about?

I've seen de-railments, but gheesh, this thread burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp...

-rvb

If we want to make this thread great again, we will have to drain the swamp.

 

[HoughMade]

If we want to make this thread great again, we will have to drain the swamp.

I think we call "swamps" "wetlands" now. "Swamp" sounds so negative. People hate swamps, and love wetlands.

Oh, and this:

 

[Vigilant]

The thread derailed when the news cycle quit.

There is nothing new. Brits got bashed because they continue to tsk, tsk our rights as if their opinion should be given weight by a colony that threw them out.

They're tsk, tsking, you're advocating actually abridging our rights!?

 

[jamil]

I don't think it is necessary to compare cultures to some sort of "perfect." Rather, the qualities of each can be evaluated with respect to each other.

Having said that, I think such discussions are boring as heck and generally devolve into pure opinion.

Kinda like trying to determine which "language" is better or more modern.

If we're going to talk policy, which is what the cultural revolution is all about, of course it becomes of interest then which cultures have produced better results. This is measurable.

I think it's fine, like Alpo has done, to talk about some of the failures of Western culture. But in terms of comparison, we're not comparing each one against perfection, to build a list of where they've fallen short. I suppose that could be useful but inefficient. We're comparing cultures' accomplishments vs failures. Is there an existing culture today, given all the pluses and minuses, that Alpo would rather live in than Western culture?

 

[JAL]

I was wondering how the flip we went from Las Vegas Shooting to Britain Sucks, No it doesn't, when I made it to your post. This one isn't just off the rails, it's going the wrong direction.

Back on track, doesn't seem odd we still don't know much about motive?
Was this psycho that good about not leaving a digital footprint?
Does his agenda not sit well with some powerful peeps?

I just find it hard to believe somebody with no bad history (that I've read about), suddenly flips the "nutter" switch, & decides to become a mass murderer.

I'm not that surprised. Apparently there was a concerted effort to erase any electronic trail. Someone who circles the wagons in their personal life may not interact with anyone but may simply lurk and observe. If he had been planning this for some months during which he was accumulating the arms and ammunition it's not too difficult to shut down and go off the grid or very nearly so regarding social media. The analysis of his electronics is ongoing and it will be for a while. I've seen postings on this forum from some that do not use Facebook, YouTube and/or Twitter. Not just a phenomenon of this forum. It's very easy to use a VPN and a private browser that maintains zero history. It's very easy to establish identities on the Internet that lead nowhere, especially if they're accessed using a zero history browser and VPN. The resources for this are nothing exotic, they're readily available, and one simply need know the basics of how the Internet works and how browsers work to employ them properly. It's nearly impossible to conceal everything but one can make it exceedingly difficult to track web searches, Internet use and social media activity. Experience in SIGINT and electronic warfare helps with some general concepts and a few minor details, but isn't required.

I've got confidence it will eventually unravel but in comparison to others who have a manifesto or cause to make known as their justification, it will take some effort to peel the onion.

John

 

[Super Bee]

WTH was this thread about?

I've seen de-railments, but gheesh, this thread burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp...

-rvb

[video=youtube;nU2y6ztlMAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU2y6ztlMAQ[/video]

 

[Alpo]

If we're going to talk policy, which is what the cultural revolution is all about, of course it becomes of interest then which cultures have produced better results. This is measurable.

I think it's fine, like Alpo has done, to talk about some of the failures of Western culture. But in terms of comparison, we're not comparing each one against perfection, to build a list of where they've fallen short. I suppose that could be useful but inefficient. We're comparing cultures' accomplishments vs failures. Is there an existing culture today, given all the pluses and minuses, that Alpo would rather live in than Western culture?

Just because Britain ruled over a good chunk of the known world at one time doesn't equate them with "Western culture" as you put it. There is much more to western civilization than Britain....and you know better. I also do not equate British accomplishments with the accomplishments of the USA. I live here. I like it here, even if some internet philosophers get confused on terms.

 

[jamil]

Just because Britain ruled over a good chunk of the known world at one time doesn't equate them with "Western culture" as you put it. There is much more to western civilization than Britain....and you know better. I also do not equate British accomplishments with the accomplishments of the USA. I live here. I like it here, even if some internet philosophers get confused on terms.

Well, don't say I'm saying more than I'm saying. I think the purpose of that video was to promote Western values more than just GB. Look at the effect it's had here. Within the West, I'd say the US is better than other Western countries.

 

[Alpo]

Look at the title again, Jamil.

The content? Certainly not academic. Not even correct.

And Prager "university". LOL It's a conservative media outlet. Nothing more.

PragerU was founded in 2011 by radio talk show host Dennis Prager and radio producer and screenwriter Allen Estrin and is not an academic institution and does not offer certifications or diplomas.

 

[Woobie]

There are a lot of institutions calling themselves "University" which I do not take seriously. Most of them actually do offer degrees.