Coronavirus

[Vigilant]

Look at the bright side, we may yet find out where PSA parts come from?

 

[jamil]

That's it....
I'm going to start peeing in jars to keep them on hand..... er... so to speak.

See, that experiment with the bread didn’t even test the pee method.

 

[OurDee]

My actual thought is to get infected early. If I make it 2 weeks, then I just have to plant an extra large garden this year. The treatment should be better early on. I want to collect some extra oatmeal.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Canned food is fine for storage. Most is "best by" for three years, though as that article notes a lot of canned food can be used longer. Actually, all those dates are pretty much irrelevant if you practice good rotation management. Eat what you store, store what you eat. Don't just throw it on a shelf and forget about it. Also, if you do have food that is coming close to "expiring", consider donating it to a food bank. They will distribute and use it quickly.

I work with a food bank at our church. Please, please, PUHLEEEEEZE pay attention. You would be surprised how many people will clean out their cupboards and donate to us because its been there a while and say "If I havent used it by now, I never will" and blindly throw it in a bag to donate. 9 out of 10 times it is WELL past the expiration date. We just threw away an entire donation last week of 3 half full paper grocery sacks of canned goods. Not a one of them was good within the past year. SMH.

Please give to us at least 3-6 months prior to the expiration date. Sometimes it doesnt fly off the shelves as fast as you think.

 

[Vigilant]

I work with a food bank at our church. Please, please, PUHLEEEEEZE pay attention. You would be surprised how many people will clean out their cupboards and donate to us because its been there a while and say "If I havent used it by now, I never will" and blindly throw it in a bag to donate. 9 out of 10 times it is WELL past the expiration date. We just threw away an entire donation last week of 3 half full paper grocery sacks of canned goods. Not a one of them was good within the past year. SMH.

Please give to us at least 3-6 months prior to the expiration date. Sometimes it doesnt fly off the shelves as fast as you think.

You do know that they’re probably still good right? Earlier in this thread someone posted an article on “expiration” dates. Hell, I’ve eaten WWII C-rations packed in the 1940’s with 18-1900’s tech?

 

[actaeon277]

My Carona

[video=youtube;g1T71PGd-J0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1T71PGd-J0[/video]

 

[Cameramonkey]

You do know that they’re probably still good right? Earlier in this thread someone posted an article on “expiration” dates. Hell, I’ve eaten WWII C-rations packed in the 1940’s with 18-1900’s tech?

I agree, they are still good. Its still not good form to give out expired food to folks.

You eating your own "expired" food is one thing. A food bank is different. In fact, no different than a store selling expired food. If it was a store, you might call the health dept for it.

Some might also call human dignity into the equation. It could be said that an organization that gives out expired food doesnt care about their patrons. And in the extreme leftist view, those orgs dont care about the patrons and consider them sub-human for giving them (officially) "spoiled" food.

 

[Vigilant]

The article even states stores are not beholden to the dates manufacturers print on foodstuffs. Obviously they don’t sell old products if they catch it, but it’s st8ll a waste.

 

[Vigilant]

I agree, they are still good. Its still not good form to give out expired food to folks.

You eating your own "expired" food is one thing. A food bank is different. In fact, no different than a store selling expired food. If it was a store, you might call the health dept for it.

Some might also call human dignity into the equation. It could be said that an organization that gives out expired food doesnt care about their patrons. And in the extreme leftist view, those orgs dont care about the patrons and consider them sub-human for giving them (officially) "spoiled" food.

Ill bet the truly needy wouldn’t give a ****. But there’s always that one.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Ill bet the truly needy wouldn’t give a ****. But there’s always that one.

I agree. But to be a good steward to the at risk and needy in the community, you must treat them with dignity and respect, and provide the absolute minimum socially acceptable aid. Which includes what is perceived as "new" unspoiled and unexpired foodstuffs. Used clothes are one thing, but food is another animal.

But I wouldnt be against a pantry that setup overtly giving away recently expired canned goods with a proactive education program, kinda like the ugly fruit company (look them up) . "Hey, look, the can's date may be a month ago, but its still perfectly good." Let the patrons decide since the pantry is up front. Kinda like the bakery outlets selling "day old" bread. (technically expired, but still edible)

 

[cbhausen]

Ace Hardware on West Washington St. in Indy (surprisingly) still had a decent selection of 3M and off-brand N95 and P100 half-face respirators (disposable and cartridge type) as of yesterday morning.

I got two size medium masks and P100 filters (with spares) there for $100 and have two size small P100 respirators on order from Amazon for the kids. Better to have and not need than need and not have.

These with separate eye protection along with proper hygiene will have to do (and should) unless this thing mutates into The Andromeda Strain.

 

[smokingman]

HOW CAN I PREVENT MYSELF FROM BEING INFECTED?

[FONT=&amp]As with other coronaviruses, droplet infection seems to be the main mode of transmission, so infection prevention control measures such as hand-washing, and cough and sneeze etiquette are important for prevention.

Hand hygiene is paramount, so wash your hands often with soap and water. Use enough soap, and make sure all parts of both your hands are washed. Spend at least 20 seconds washing your hands. If there’s no visible dirt on your hands, an alcohol-based gel is also a good option.(I am adding this.Do NOT dry alcohol-based gel,they need time to work).

If you cough or sneeze, cover your mouth and nose with a tissue, or with the inside of your elbow. Put used tissues in the bin immediately, just like used masks, and wash your hands.

A mask is a good preventive measure to protect from breathing in the virus or transmitting it if you are sick. Only touch the strings of the mask when you take it off. Put it directly in the bin and wash your hands.

https://www.msf.org/msf-update-2019-ncov-coronavirus-outbreak
Doctors Without Borders International.


[/FONT]The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not know. The smarter I become, the dumber I get.

At this rate I'll learn myself into idiocy in no time at all.


27 minutes to watch both.
CNBC video most probably have not seen.Very good information.*and note.CDC did send out test kits to 100 labs on 2/6/2020 that will be available to use starting 2/10/2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq33oZdQ-R4 (7 minutes with Dr. Gregory Poland, professor of medicine and infectious diseases and the director of the Vaccine Research Group at Mayo Clinic, and Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Pfizer board member and former FDA Commissioner)

More realistic explanation of impact,and why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko41qWfOUEk

 

[Phase2]

I agree. But to be a good steward to the at risk and needy in the community, you must treat them with dignity and respect, and provide the absolute minimum socially acceptable aid. Which includes what is perceived as "new" unspoiled and unexpired foodstuffs. Used clothes are one thing, but food is another animal.

I'll back Cameramonkey on this. I used to volunteer at a local food bank. They do have to maintain a reputation and do have laws/rules to follow. I know that specific food bank (which I still donate to periodically) rotates out food quickly which is why I said "coming close to expiring", but I'll take his word that some might take longer to distribute.

I don't give away food that is "expired", but instead eat it myself. I try to practice good rotation, but will eat my own mistakes when they happen.

 

[Phase2]

China now has over 400M people living under various levels of quarantine- more than the entire population of the US. Entire provinces (roughly equivalent to states) and multi-million person cities are under lock-down. Amazing.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1239582/Coronavirus-virus-latest-China-quarantine-global-recession-Shanghai

 

[jedi]

China now has over 400M people living under various levels of quarantine- more than the entire population of the US. Entire provinces (roughly equivalent to states) and multi-million person cities are under lock-down. Amazing.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1239582/Coronavirus-virus-latest-China-quarantine-global-recession-Shanghai

Reminds me of the book world war Z where the ENTIRE population of North Korea one day just seals itself off from the world by going underground never to be heard from again after they had removed all the populations teeth.

 

[jamil]

I'll back Cameramonkey on this. I used to volunteer at a local food bank. They do have to maintain a reputation and do have laws/rules to follow. I know that specific food bank (which I still donate to periodically) rotates out food quickly which is why I said "coming close to expiring", but I'll take his word that some might take longer to distribute.

I don't give away food that is "expired", but instead eat it myself. I try to practice good rotation, but will eat my own mistakes when they happen.

In my churchier days we went door to door for food drives to collect food from the community to give to local food banks. We'd pass flyers out in the community a week or so before the food drive. In the flier we clearly listed what was acceptable and what was not. When we went around to collect the donations, people basically used it as an excuse to clean out their cupboards. We collected some of the grossest **** you could imagine. The grossness of how bad they let their cupboards get was actually more of a testimony about their character than the fact they donated what should have been in the trash. We typically threw away way more than we delivered to the food banks.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Data from windy.com shows a massive release of sulfur dioxide gas from the outskirts of Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matter. Levels are elevated, even compared with the rest of China.

 

[jedi]

It's the only way to kill the zombies.

 

[VulpesForge]

Data from windy.com shows a massive release of sulfur dioxide gas from the outskirts of Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matter. Levels are elevated, even compared with the rest of China.

So we're assuming China is burning large quantities of bodies. Could you infer the infected count will be artificially deflated by reducing evidence, or just that China has decided it's the only safe way to dispose of infected corpses?

 

[jamil]

So we're assuming China is burning large quantities of bodies. Could you infer the infected count will be artificially deflated by reducing evidence, or just that China has decided it's the only safe way to dispose of infected corpses?

China has already said that they recommend incinerating people who have died from this if possible. It looks like this is just them putting their own policy into action. But, if it's that detectable on that scale it seems to be a lot worse than they've let on.