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  • Dirtebiker

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    I had an idea. How about passing a law that would revoke all government assistance for anyone arrested during protests. I'll bet it would cut down the numbers.
    Can’t pass a law like that, and I don’t think it would stop anything! Idiots don’t stop to consider the consequences. Especially when there is NONE!
     

    Tombs

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    I never want to hear these cops complain about manpower again.

    There are tens of thousands of people who'd answer the call for help in a moments notice. But they won't make the call.

    You could have every business in indianapolis with a few armed folks outside of it and defending it, and this riot would be unable to accomplish anything.

    "But the optics won't look good" yeah I don't really care, the lives and livelihood of our people matter more.
     

    Dirtebiker

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    I never want to hear these cops complain about manpower again.

    There are tens of thousands of people who'd answer the call for help in a moments notice. But they won't make the call.

    You could have every business in indianapolis with a few armed folks outside of it and defending it, and this riot would be unable to accomplish anything.

    "But the optics won't look good" yeah I don't really care, the lives and livelihood of our people matter more.
    If I or a friend had a business downtown I’d be ther protecting it!
     

    churchmouse

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    Plan should have been made IMMEDIATLY after Furguson... did we learn noting from LA 1992?

    Hog**** is not capable of anything past showing us his stinky shoes. He is a terrible mayor. So no. If there were a plan in place he could not find it. He is inept.
     

    jsx1043

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    KW, Tombs... guys, I get it. I really do. And I'm sorry that this is happening. But everyone has to think critically about all of this:


    We don't like cops to have military equipment, but we want them to have it at the ready and use it with authority when the SHTF.

    We don't want to have people in jail, so we keep putting criminals out on ankle bracelets and dismissing their cases, so jail beds are never added.

    We don't the local police talking to the feds or participating in federal task forces, but when the local cops need help, those are the people that we call for help. God forbid we train for situations like this, because then it's Jade Helm and FEMA camps.


    We (the police) are constantly villified by the media and their agenda is working, and our hands are tied. The citizenry needs to understand that.
     

    Tombs

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    KW, Tombs... guys, I get it. I really do. And I'm sorry that this is happening. But everyone has to think critically about all of this:


    We don't like cops to have military equipment, but we want them to have it at the ready and use it with authority when the SHTF.

    We don't want to have people in jail, so we keep putting criminals out on ankle bracelets and dismissing their cases, so jail beds are never added.

    We don't the local police talking to the feds or participating in federal task forces, but when the local cops need help, those are the people that we call for help. God forbid we train for situations like this, because then it's Jade Helm and FEMA camps.


    We (the police) are constantly villified by the media and their agenda is working, and our hands are tied. The citizenry needs to understand that.

    Where is your argument against calling for help?
    You know, maybe if you relied on the people for help, instead of pretending you can do everything alone, you might not have conspiracies and other things tarnishing your image.
     

    jsx1043

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    I’m assuming you are a Leo. I’m sure we agree on most points, but they are NOT doing everything they can. And cops “shouldn’t” be “warriors “! This is NOT war! It’s a certain group of young misfits who have never been disciplined and are pretty much allowed to do whatever the hell they want. If/when these thugs ARE caught/arrested, they are kicked back through the turnstiles to return to the streets to go right back to their everyday activities.


    Man, I don't have the answer, but this is a warzone down here, plain and simple. If it gets worse than this, then expect a lot of flag-draped coffins. IF that's not war, then I don't know what is.
     

    Dutchisaurus

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    KW, Tombs... guys, I get it. I really do. And I'm sorry that this is happening. But everyone has to think critically about all of this:


    We don't like cops to have military equipment, but we want them to have it at the ready and use it with authority when the SHTF.

    We don't want to have people in jail, so we keep putting criminals out on ankle bracelets and dismissing their cases, so jail beds are never added.

    We don't the local police talking to the feds or participating in federal task forces, but when the local cops need help, those are the people that we call for help. God forbid we train for situations like this, because then it's Jade Helm and FEMA camps.


    We (the police) are constantly villified by the media and their agenda is working, and our hands are tied. The citizenry needs to understand that.

    Wouldn't it be wise then to call on the citizenry for help? We are a government of the people, for the people and by the people.
     

    MCgrease08

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    I never want to hear these cops complain about manpower again.

    There are tens of thousands of people who'd answer the call for help in a moments notice. But they won't make the call.

    You could have every business in indianapolis with a few armed folks outside of it and defending it, and this riot would be unable to accomplish anything.

    "But the optics won't look good" yeah I don't really care, the lives and livelihood of our people matter more.

    Why are you waiting for a call? What's stopping you from getting down there and offering to help out?

    I say this somewhat sarcastically, but it used to be people would show up on their own to the public square to defend their towns. Those days seem to be long gone, for a variety of reasons that we could debate for eternity. But we've gotten so far away from being a woven and connected community that few of us have any personal connection or property in Indy. At least not one deep enough to muster on our own. But I do agree many here would answer the bell if called.
     

    Tombs

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    Why are you waiting for a call? What's stopping you from getting down there and offering to help out?

    I say this somewhat sarcastically, but it used to be people would show up on their own to the public square to defend their towns. Those days seem to be long gone, for a variety of reasons that we could debate for eternity. But we've gotten so far away from being a woven and connected community that few of us have any personal connection or property in Indy. At least not one deep enough to muster on our own. But I do agree many here would answer the bell if called.

    I don't want to be in a position where I have to fear the police as much as I do the protesters.

    If they call for help, I'll come. But if they refuse help and will just arrest me for trying to help, then I'm not going to bother.
     

    Dirtebiker

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    KW, Tombs... guys, I get it. I really do. And I'm sorry that this is happening. But everyone has to think critically about all of this:


    We don't like cops to have military equipment, but we want them to have it at the ready and use it with authority when the SHTF.

    We don't want to have people in jail, so we keep putting criminals out on ankle bracelets and dismissing their cases, so jail beds are never added.

    We don't the local police talking to the feds or participating in federal task forces, but when the local cops need help, those are the people that we call for help. God forbid we train for situations like this, because then it's Jade Helm and FEMA camps.


    We (the police) are constantly villified by the media and their agenda is working, and our hands are tied. The citizenry needs to understand that.
    Oh, we know what the media and the “liberals/progressives” are doing to the police!

    But we also know what the police have done to themselves!
    don't take me wrong. I’m pro police! But when we see idiots like the guy with all his body weight on another humans neck for nine minutes, well that ain’t gonna fly!
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Wouldn't it be wise then to call on the citizenry for help? We are a government of the people, for the people and by the people.

    No, because citizens haven't been trained, and have different standards. You can tell people here can be trigger happy, and want to just fire at all rioters. That ain't okay, and wouldn't end well.
     
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