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  • wcd

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    So I have been wanting a Larry Vickers Master Class 1911 since they were released. Now it looks like I can get one for about $100 under MSRP. So about $1500 with shipping ffl etc. I had been taking a hard look at the Garrison as well. Pros for the Vickers would be night sights , front strap treatment and grips. Understanding I could easily get Trijicon sights for the Garrison, and add My favored grips, just not a fan of thin grips. So that would leave me with deciding if I could forego The front strap checkering.

    Would There be that much of a difference in build quality between the Two? Would it really be with about 100% more for the Vickers, given I can pick up a Garrison locally?

    Other than wanting A Government size 1911 I have been very happy with my Ruger lightweight commander style 1911.

    thoughts?
     

    daddyusmaximus

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    I'd say get what gun you want based on what features you want, rather than what famous former operator saw fit to lend his name to the project. (nothing against Larry)
    Are the upgrades worth the price of admission?
    Is having Larry's name on it (being a collectable) one of the desired features?

    I understand the desire for things like the night sights, and front strap checkering, my Guardian has them.
    Like Magyars, I'm a DW fan, and as of now, that's my only 1911.

    In the end, only you can decide how to spend your money.
    If you're like me... sometimes, you just want something.
    That's why we work to be successful, so we can scratch that itch when it pops up. LOL.
     

    wcd

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    I'd say get what gun you want based on what features you want, rather than what famous former operator saw fit to lend his name to the project. (nothing against Larry)
    Are the upgrades worth the price of admission?
    Is having Larry's name on it (being a collectable) one of the desired features?

    I understand the desire for things like the night sights, and front strap checkering, my Guardian has them.
    Like Magyars, I'm a DW fan, and as of now, that's my only 1911.

    In the end, only you can decide how to spend your money.
    If you're like me... sometimes, you just want something.
    That's why we work to be successful, so we can scratch that itch when it pops up. LOL.
    I am an Aldi shopper lol. The big pluses are it’s a 5 inch, has my preferred u notch rear sight, I had a set of HD sights installed on my Ruger it was about $200 for the sights and install, plus 2 weeks time out of my holster. However the new sights have made long shots possible. For some reason visually I am able to center the dot in the u notch much faster.

    I am guessing it would be about 300 to 400 to have front strap checkering done? Then another $60.00 for G10 grips so I guess that ups the Garrison price to about $1300? plus there is the time factor of getting the work done I suppose that has to be considered as well.

    Funny thing is Some years later and 5 moves for work we are now in a place where I can scratch an itch, but still it takes a lot for me to actually do it.
     

    WebSnyper

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    I am an Aldi shopper lol. ...

    Funny thing is Some years later and 5 moves for work we are now in a place where I can scratch an itch, but still it takes a lot for me to actually do it.
    Most people I know that have enough money to scratch the itch, have it because they are selective about which itches they choose to scratch. I'm the same way.
     

    wcd

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    Most people I know that have enough money to scratch the itch, have it because they are selective about which itches they choose to scratch. I'm the same way.
    Exactly I am sure to many $1400 is not a lot, but to me it really is a good chunk of change. But when you see prices keep soaring it really does not seem like that much.

    Honestly it would not matter to me if it said Church Mouse on the slide, we’ll actually that might make for an easier decision.

    I do not see it having a special serial number etc as a selling point I am rather attracted to the boxes it checks with out the need for a retro fit.
     

    WebSnyper

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    Exactly I am sure to many $1400 is not a lot, but to me it really is a good chunk of change. But when you see prices keep soaring it really does not seem like that much.

    Honestly it would not matter to me if it said Church Mouse on the slide, we’ll actually that might make for an easier decision.

    I do not see it having a special serial number etc as a selling point I am rather attracted to the boxes it checks with out the need for a retro fit.
    If the pros/cons weigh put for you then it's really just whether you want to out the funds towards the Vickers or not.
     

    DadSmith

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    So I have been wanting a Larry Vickers Master Class 1911 since they were released. Now it looks like I can get one for about $100 under MSRP. So about $1500 with shipping ffl etc. I had been taking a hard look at the Garrison as well. Pros for the Vickers would be night sights , front strap treatment and grips. Understanding I could easily get Trijicon sights for the Garrison, and add My favored grips, just not a fan of thin grips. So that would leave me with deciding if I could forego The front strap checkering.

    Would There be that much of a difference in build quality between the Two? Would it really be with about 100% more for the Vickers, given I can pick up a Garrison locally?

    Other than wanting A Government size 1911 I have been very happy with my Ruger lightweight commander style 1911.

    thoughts?
    Churchmouse I've read his comments over several years and from those comments I gleaned this knowledge.
    Buy a good base 1911 that way as you can afford upgrades you can add them to a quality 1911. Springfield is a quality 1911 to start from. As you get extra funds upgrade it until it's what you want .
     

    Trapper Jim

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    It is a nu
    So I have been wanting a Larry Vickers Master Class 1911 since they were released. Now it looks like I can get one for about $100 under MSRP. So about $1500 with shipping ffl etc. I had been taking a hard look at the Garrison as well. Pros for the Vickers would be night sights , front strap treatment and grips. Understanding I could easily get Trijicon sights for the Garrison, and add My favored grips, just not a fan of thin grips. So that would leave me with deciding if I could forego The front strap checkering.

    Would There be that much of a difference in build quality between the Two? Would it really be with about 100% more for the Vickers, given I can pick up a Garrison locally?

    Other than wanting A Government size 1911 I have been very happy with my Ruger lightweight commander style 1911.

    thoughts?
    It is a numbers game. Just like the cost of driving. A Chevy Vega will get you from point A to point B most of the time. More most of the times will come from a better built car at a higher price. But when the cost is divided by dependable miles the cost per mile goes down. Guns are the same. If you want the horse to run better, feed him the best oats. An American made factory produced 1911 will bring most casual gun owners a great service life for the money. By buying this entry level one can and will have some problems in shoot ability sooner than a Brown, Baer, Wilson or other. If you are okay with the fail, then save the money and have a smith tweak your bargain 1911 for you as your get the funds. If the gun can be made into the quality of a already built Brown, Baer or Wilson, then you may end up with the same or even more money in it and a lot of down time to boot. Keep in mind that for serious work, the fail could either be in a match on the range or on the street. So on the range you get a bad score, on the street, you may not come home.

    Of course I understand limited funds and it didn't take me long to figure out with a young family and bills coming in that I was going to have to work a lot harder to fund my shooting and photography hobbies. Couldn't have picked two more expensive hobbies..oh wait, building and racing rods too. Got up early and got home late is what it takes. So what ever your financial situation may be, if you want it bad enough, you will figure it out. Asking the question on this forum shows that you want to be efficient in your spending. If your round count is going to be a few hundred a year, then go basic. If you are wanting to train and practice to develop a said skill set, well that will take tens of thousands of rounds making a custom gun a better value in the long run. Let your motivation and determination to put in the range time decide on the best bargain for you.

    Each week in competition or almost every day at the range, I see these fails. The good news is that there are more shooters today willing to do something about it. I have known many that have and still do, put up with inferior equipment. And for some, it is not because of lack of funds.

    Thank you for your post...

    See you on the Range

    Trapper
     

    hANNAbONE

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    So I have been wanting a Larry Vickers Master Class 1911 since they were released. Now it looks like I can get one for about $100 under MSRP. So about $1500 with shipping ffl etc. I had been taking a hard look at the Garrison as well. Pros for the Vickers would be night sights , front strap treatment and grips. Understanding I could easily get Trijicon sights for the Garrison, and add My favored grips, just not a fan of thin grips. So that would leave me with deciding if I could forego The front strap checkering.

    Would There be that much of a difference in build quality between the Two? Would it really be with about 100% more for the Vickers, given I can pick up a Garrison locally?

    Other than wanting A Government size 1911 I have been very happy with my Ruger lightweight commander style 1911.

    thoughts?
    I would urge you to look @ BUL Armory. Incredible build quality & fitment.
     

    drillsgt

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    I would get the Vickers if you have the opportunity to get one below MSRP. They aren't making a lot of these and they are still in demand. It's a unique gun that uses Wilson parts so it's a cut above a standard Springfield. Cheapest one on GB went for 1500.00 with several going for over 1900.00 recently.
     

    ECS686

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    While the Garrison is a super nice 1911 and you wouldn’t go wrong with it. And it’s probably just as good for most mortals. But if you want more the Vickers has several Wilson as well as Springfield custom parts and internals that can make a difference for some more than cosmetics



    The thing with the Vickers is a sits set up to emulate some of his issues 1911’s you won’t have to do anything to it.
     

    63PGP

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    Well looks like it’s not available, the oh Our Website just shows it in stock, nice

    If you are referring to the Standard Mfg 1911 go to GunBroker and search "STANDARD MFG CO M1911B 45ACP". Thats the exact item title.
     
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