Title IX vs Trans rights; who wins?

[bwframe]

At least the trans league would have a sponsor, now all they need are spectators.

Sounds like a perfect problem for a good marketing person?

Easy solution to no spectators --- FREE BUD LITE!

 

[bwframe]

Riley Gaines sounds off on Brittney Griner, Megan Rapinoe advocating for 'male inclusion in women’s sports'

Former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines criticized Brittney Griner and Megan Rapinoe for their support of transgender women competing against biological females.

www.foxnews.com

 

[actaeon277]

But seriously, if there has to be a women’s league for poker, WTF? How are women disadvantaged in poker?

less aggressive

 

[jamil]

less aggressive

There's a women's billiards league too. It's not like it's because men have a physical advantage shooting pool. There are more and less aggressive men. There are more and less aggressive women. On average men are more aggressive than women, probably more men who are willing to take risks. But then why not just have an aggressive league and a ***** ass ***** league? Then let people self sort regardless of their sex.

 

[jamil]

Something that might explain the different pool leagues. Men tend to have better hand-eye coordination and fine motor skills like aiming, catching, throwing, and I guess that would include aiming a pool cue. Women tend to have better fine motor skills such as precision dexterity.

 

[manifest destiny]

Something that might explain the different pool leagues. Men tend to have better hand-eye coordination and fine motor skills like aiming, catching, throwing, and I guess that would include aiming a pool cue. Women tend to have better fine motor skills such as precision dexterity.

Men tend to be taller/larger and might gain some advantage in reach, modest as it might be. Regardless, I don't have an issue dividing men and women in competitions of any sort if that's the customary practice.

 

[DadSmith]

Why aren't there women who claim to be men trying out for men's sports like the men who claim to be women are the women sports?

I would think we know why. I'm just trying to bring out the absurdity of this whole situation.

 

[manifest destiny]

Why aren't there women who claim to be men trying out for men's sports like the men who claim to be women are the women sports?

I would think we know why. I'm just trying to bring out the absurdity of this whole situation.

You obviously know this already, but....
The absurdity is the dude with frank and beans wearing a womans swimsuit and competing against women who don't have frank and beans. Ludicrous! In fact, I'm wondering why there isn't a set definition for "trans". Apparently sticking lipstick and a skirt on a beard qualifies as female. Maybe these dudes identifying as "trans" should have to, ahem, pay the price. Choppy-choppy. Ain't willing to let them go? Get back in the line you belong in, dude!
Good Lord, this isn't a difference of opinion; it's a difference of objective sanity.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Men tend to be taller/larger and might gain some advantage in reach, modest as it might be. Regardless, I don't have an issue dividing men and women in competitions of any sort if that's the customary practice.

Or if they must intermingle, it should be shirts and skins... Shirts for the men and skins for the women.

 

[actaeon277]

Many men's sports DO allow women.

But the top competitors work out to be men.
So, mostly men try out.
But the option is still there.

There are women stronger or faster than many men.
The problem is, these sports are the TOPS in those professions.
And MEN dominate in the extremes.


It's the women's categories that have been, TILL NOW, only open to women.

 

[actaeon277]

For instance
Boston Marathon

I had a better site, with a better list, but of course I can't find it.


But

Boston Marathon 2022: Start time, route, qualifying times, list of past winners

Here is everything you need to know about the 2022 Boston Marathon, including the start time, route and qualifying times for the race, which returns to its spring date after being canceled and then delayed the past two years.

www.sportingnews.com

List of past Boston Marathon winners​

Men​

Year

Runner (Country)

Time

2021	Benson Kipruto (Kenya)	2:09:51
2019	Lawrence Cherono (Kenya)	2:07:57
2018	Yuki Kawauchi (Japan)	2:15:58
2017	Geoffrey Kirui (Kenya)	2:09:37
2016	Lemi Berhanu (Ethiopia)	2:12:45
2015	Lelisa Desisa (Ethiopia)	2:09:17
2014	Meb Keflezighi (United States)	2:08:37
2013	Lelisa Desisa (Ethiopia)	2:10:22
2012	Wesley Korir (Kenya)	2:12:40
2011	Geoffrey Mutai (Kenya)	2:03:02
2010	Robert Kiprono Cheruiyot (Kenya)	2:05:52
2009	Deriba Merga (Ethiopia)	2:08:42

Women​

Time

Runner (Country)

Time

2021	Diana Kipyokei (Kenya)	2:24:45
2019	Worknesh Degefa (Ethiopia)	2:23:31
2018	Desiree Linden (United States)	2:39:54
2017	Edna Kiplagat (Kenya)	2:21:52
2016	Atsede Baysa (Ethiopia)	2:29:19
2015	Caroline Rotich (Kenya)	2:24:55
2014	Buzunesh Deba (Ethiopia)	2:19:59
2013	Rita Jeptoo (Kenya)	2:26:25
2012	Sharon Cherop (Kenya)	2:31:50
2011	Caroline Kilel (Kenya)	2:22:36
2010	Teyba Erkesso (Ethiopia)	2:26:11
2009	Salina Kosgei (Kenya)	2:32:16

Notice anything?


I used to have a list that showed the top woman's time was VERY far down the list if men were included.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Notice anything?

Yes. Both men and women from Africa are going to be most likely to win.

 

[Shadow01]

And you intentionally listed women second…

 

[manifest destiny]

Yes. Both men and women from Africa are going to be most likely to win.

The only U.S. showing in the twelve years for men was Meb Keflezighi. And he's an Ethiopian who became a naturalized citizen in 1998, go figure.

 

[actaeon277]

And you intentionally listed women second…

I listed it by time.
I guess the women should just try harder....

And yes, I've heard women say that.
Mostly younger women, who got their ideas from TV, and think they can be Lebron if they just TRY HARDER.

 

[actaeon277]

here we go



I tried to copy/paste.
Ugh
Got a mile long page. It didn't work.

And the links didn't work either.
But the search origin is

Boston Athletic Association

results.baa.org

But the top woman places 37th overall, with a time of 2:21:38

 

[jamil]

Why aren't there women who claim to be men trying out for men's sports like the men who claim to be women are the women sports?

I would think we know why. I'm just trying to bring out the absurdity of this whole situation.

I’ll take a stab at answering that. There’s no competitive advantage for a biological woman to claim she’s a man so that she can compete against other men?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I’ll take a stab at answering that. There’s no competitive advantage for a biological woman to claim she’s a man so that she can compete against other men?

 

[rhamersley]

Yes. Both men and women from Africa are going to be most likely to win.

To be fair, what the heck else do they have to do over there but run from lions, hippos and the like...

 

[Magyars]