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Why the hate for Cyclists?
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This is me. After I finished training for an Ironman, which required 100's of miles every week, I put the bike away. I had so many close calls that it just isn't worth it.
And now the number of distracted drivers has cemented the fact that I won't be back out on the roads anymore.
It's also the reason I gave up motorcycling. Which I wonder how many folks on this thread are okay with motorcyclists pulling out to stop traffic while their 25 fellow riders can filter out onto the roadway. Is that okay?
Oh, and for those of you that don't know, it is legal for bicyclists to ride 2 abreast. It is up to you, the person in the much more powerful mode of transportation to wait for an opening and then pass them.
That said, when my friends and I rode, we didn't snub drivers by flaunting our legal right. We dropped back into single file and at times even waved a car past us if we had a better vantage point of the road ahead. We knew who would lose if there was an encounter with a motor vehicle.
Hell no, I can't stand those rolling roadblocks.
If they turn around and laugh while riding 2 to 3 wide when they know you're waiting to pass them.
Its time to Roll a little Coal.
I never said I hated them, I just know what the most replies have been when this subject has been brought up in r/Bloomington.
dieselrealtor
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Not all, but some behave as someone bringing only a fork to a pitchin, cutting in line & moving at slow speed.
Where do the funds to build/maintain the roads come from?
Where do the funds to build/maintain the roads come from?
BehindBlueI's
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Obstructing traffic is a dick move, no matter if you're in a semi, on your pedal toy, or waving your eco-terrorist banner.
When I'm on multi-use trails, I notice cyclists tend to be more polite. You'll often get a 'thanks' when you yield the trail to them. I don't know if it's because you're human vs a faceless wheeled box or if it's because your close enough to shove them into the ravine, but I rarely see the entitled asshat behaviors on trails I see on roads. Entitle asshat behavior on trails is more often the horse with two dicks, one underneath and one on top.
When I'm on multi-use trails, I notice cyclists tend to be more polite. You'll often get a 'thanks' when you yield the trail to them. I don't know if it's because you're human vs a faceless wheeled box or if it's because your close enough to shove them into the ravine, but I rarely see the entitled asshat behaviors on trails I see on roads. Entitle asshat behavior on trails is more often the horse with two dicks, one underneath and one on top.
You don't have to drive very far on country roads around Btown to get behind some pricks that could pull over to let traffic by, yet don't.
All they need to do is follow their own motto, YET DON'T.
Share the road!
Just "Share the road"
Again, license plates are the answer. Same as you and me driving down the road, we know we are accountable.
All they need to do is follow their own motto, YET DON'T.
Share the road!
Just "Share the road"
Again, license plates are the answer. Same as you and me driving down the road, we know we are accountable.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for the laugh.
AndreusMaximus
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Umm, sorry, did you just reply to the wrong person? INGO drug users? Put strangers at risk for bodily harm? I feel like this response must be aimed at somebody else, because I really don't get where that came from.
Ive been on street motorcycles better than 50 years now, Thats one of the reasons I gave up doing poker runs years and years ago. It really pisses me off when its being done with a local LEO holding up everyone. We were held up on the way to James Dean a few years ago, there must have been 800 to 1,000 motorcycles heading east into Fairmont.
To give credit where credit is due, I've been "inconvenienced" WAY more by dipsticks behind a motor than cyclists, and if I started biking everywhere, I'm sure I would be on the receiving end of jerks behind motors than if the roles were reversed, even if I was being polite and courteous. I do not agree with those joking (hopefully) that we need to turn cyclists into roadkill. A simple (not an easy one) solution would simply not be jerks to each other.
However, let's stop acting like bikes and cars operate the same way. Cars go much faster, are louder, have a wider array of things to see them at night, and is the primary mode of transportation for most of society. Bikes are way more maneuverable, much smaller, quieter, and can navigate areas that cars cannot. There are limitations and advantages to each of them. It's why some interstates restrict traffic to only motorized vehicles and why you can't drive an 18 wheeler on some country roads (even though I know that has more to do with the shear strength of the asphalt).
Here's an example. There is a "highway" where I live that has a speed limit of 55. It is a busy road that connects South Bend to a smaller village 15 miles away. It always has a few cars on it unless it's 2:00 AM. I have seen several times where traffic is restricted because cyclists will not use the shoulder, which is a generous 5 feet. The most I've seen is 35 cars going roughly 15 MPH because they cannot pass due to oncoming traffic. In this case, it is easier for the cyclists to get on the side of the road than for a chain of cars to pass around.
At the same time, I have many more stories of dipstick drivers doing stupid things, but that isn't the subject of this thread.
However, let's stop acting like bikes and cars operate the same way. Cars go much faster, are louder, have a wider array of things to see them at night, and is the primary mode of transportation for most of society. Bikes are way more maneuverable, much smaller, quieter, and can navigate areas that cars cannot. There are limitations and advantages to each of them. It's why some interstates restrict traffic to only motorized vehicles and why you can't drive an 18 wheeler on some country roads (even though I know that has more to do with the shear strength of the asphalt).
Here's an example. There is a "highway" where I live that has a speed limit of 55. It is a busy road that connects South Bend to a smaller village 15 miles away. It always has a few cars on it unless it's 2:00 AM. I have seen several times where traffic is restricted because cyclists will not use the shoulder, which is a generous 5 feet. The most I've seen is 35 cars going roughly 15 MPH because they cannot pass due to oncoming traffic. In this case, it is easier for the cyclists to get on the side of the road than for a chain of cars to pass around.
At the same time, I have many more stories of dipstick drivers doing stupid things, but that isn't the subject of this thread.
Uhh, they ARE 'vehicular traffic' in the eyes of the law
Traffic laws in the U.S. say that bicycles are considered vehicles with the same rights and responsibilities as other vehicles in most cases. Unless specified otherwise, bicyclists usually have a right to be on the road and an obligation to follow the same common traffic laws regarding stopping, yielding, right of way, and left lane rules
Anyone wearing a king of the mountains jersey - or any points jersey from any cycling race - is a Fred. It is a case of stolen valorI have cycled (~20 mile country road rides, sometimes to work in a more urban setting, but no centuries or the like...) and I have driven.
It's not fun being in traffic using either conveyence when they meet.
I would say the thing that makes me question anyone's judgement is driving up/down a road like Hazel Dell Pkwy between 4:30 - 6 pm, which has 4-6' wide bike paths on both sides of the road, and having some guy in a "king of the mountain" jersey riding 3' off the curb giving me the stink eye when I hit the gas to pass him.
I realize it is not as cool to ride on bike paths compared to screaming down the Champs-Élysées in Paris, but fer Pete's sake, what is the gain other than "I'm allowed to do it".
Are cyclists the "open carriers" of transportation?!?!?
Big love to all my driving and cycling brothers out there!
I suspect if I came upon you on a country road in my WRX and blew around you at 80 you might be all 'He can't do that, he's breaking the law' but in reality you advocating for exactly that with your 'Get the hell off the road or yield to traffic'
Many people only wish to play by those rules when they think they have the whip hand
BehindBlueI's
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BehindBlueI's
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The only thing I mind about getting passed by a WRX is the oil splatter.
Maybe an alternate title to this thread could be “why do people have to drive/ride like jerks?”
I’ll admit I’m an impatient driver. I just want to get where I’m wanting to go with as few interruptions as possible. But every once in awhile I like to putting around looking at the leaves, seeing the sites, etc. When I do and people come up behind me, I don’t insist on my right to drive as I wish, everyone else be damned. I pull over and let them pass as soon as I can. Common courtesy. When I used to ride, I did the same thing. I also trie to take routes where I’d minimize auto traffic interactions. Few people, in cars or on bikes, treat others as they’d like to be treated.
I’ll admit I’m an impatient driver. I just want to get where I’m wanting to go with as few interruptions as possible. But every once in awhile I like to putting around looking at the leaves, seeing the sites, etc. When I do and people come up behind me, I don’t insist on my right to drive as I wish, everyone else be damned. I pull over and let them pass as soon as I can. Common courtesy. When I used to ride, I did the same thing. I also trie to take routes where I’d minimize auto traffic interactions. Few people, in cars or on bikes, treat others as they’d like to be treated.
